RE: POLL: Choose your token (ENG/ITA)

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DPoS, or as you call it proof of wallet which is PoS not DPoS, is what makes PoB possible on Hive duder.

How is dpos any less proof of wallet?
Those with the most still call the shots.
Who they delegate to is irrelevant.

divided on how to deal with the downvotes.

Messing with genius is rarely a good idea, iyam.

We have what we have because it has been tested and proved the most viable.
Without downvotes on content the bots own all the inflation.

Greedy f**ks being what they are, we had to end the gamification of curation that was doing an adequate job of distribution, mostly because of coders and their bots.

They took the n2 with them.
I would like to see that return and any greedy folks breaking the game overwhelmed by flaggots saying no, no, no.
This seems a more community centered response, to me, than does breaking the game for everybody because some few are jerks.

i think DV option for witnesses and proposals is a fair approach.

This I agree with.
Downvotes on witnesses and proposals is a clear way to poll 'the community'.
Upvotes alone don't tell the whole story.

In a DPoS system, the large all stake holders are responsible to help moderate content on Hive.

Ftfy.

Every stake holder on hive is important.
Having more hive doesn't make your opinion any more/less valid.
Having very little hive doesn't preclude your duty to protect its value from dilution by no/low effort posts.

As we can see from the curation gangs, that only increase retention among those willing to kiss their,...uhm, create content consistent with corporate speak, the corporate approach is not working.

2.4 million accounts, ~4500 daily authors, 6+ years of testing.
This game has been rejected using the approaches of the last 6 years by a clear majority.
To continue on the same path is insanity, imo.

Leaving aside that ganging up to get more from a commons is ganging up to rob the least powerful of those in the pool to further engorge those with the most.
The top 20 accounts take 50% of the inflation day after day.
This concentrates power in the hands of the few, and clearly repels outsider investment.
Why play a game that has no way to win?
Having to compete with accounts that have millions while you have scores is very disheartening.
I've proposed a 1000mv 'whale experiment', but you can guess how far that got in a dpos environment.

When whales vote, redfish get pushed below the dust cutoff and get nothing.
As curation gangs grow they push out the very people they purport to be helping.
Leaving aside they only help those who's speech is agreeable to them.
And crush those who's speech offends them.

The more the gangs, and whales, vote, the more redfish get nothing and stop playing.
Why spam twitter for users when we have some already here that we ignore/actively suppress?

The more voices in the consensus the better the crowd sourcing, imo.
The more loud the dissent, the more honest the consensus, too.
Crushing dissent in the hive is not helping.

still my post will show on ecency or other front ends regardless.

Yes, no content has been removed from the chain, just blocked by the front ends, afaik.

It is possible to block content at the api, and who would know if it happened outside the devs that coded it?
No non-technical user would be able to find out.
Only somebody capable of reading the code could tell, but that won't be the average users, nor is it reasonable to expect people capable of knowing to cut their own throats by announcing the chain is a fraud.

So you think tipu ruins the DPoS driven PoB concept on Hive?

Yes.

All no effort rewards gained from the pool intended to incentivize content creation breaks proof of brain.
Selling votes and delegating for profit (the same thing) are not the intended purpose of the rewards pool.
This has been the case since I got here, and I have a 5 digit account number.

If you want no effort rewards convert your hive to hbd and put it into savings.
You get more doing that than curating, anyway.



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If you want no effort rewards convert your hive to hbd and put it into savings.
You get more doing that than curating, anyway.

That is a good part of my point. Hive is a robust and well developed web 3.0 blockchain. Just like with life there are solutions to perceived problems. People can innovate with free market concepts and community support.

I think it is cool how in so many ways Hive is a reflection of real life.

Steem was more social media driven and Hive is a wide open world where earning Hive from content creation and curation is a small part of the equation now, in my opinion. We have world builders here. Just from my perspective I think having a platform where I can make detailed content and not have it deleted or owned by a corporation is worth it alone. The rewards is just secondary for me.

I really like this part of the whitepaper

To earn without financial investment, individuals partake in a wide range of activities. Those include blogging, participating in discussions, curating others, building and engaging with dapps, playing games and more; their limits are only constrained by their own imagination to further the decentralization of the system. All content is always readily-available on the blockchain and retains its original integrity.

Pg. 3, #1

https://hive.io/whitepaper.pdf

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