RE: LeoThread 2025-11-06 22-46

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Something that requires forcing others to provide it cannot be a human right

Because it conflicts with itself under scrutiny. It's a self-defeating moral claim



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Individuals have a right to their person and to what can be acquired without violating the same right in others

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Individuals have a right to their body, speech, thoughts, daylight and darkness, their ideas and self-taught knowledge, and the air they breathe. If someone grows their own food, it belongs to them.

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If something is given or taught freely, it belongs to the recipient. So far, no violation of others' rights — consistent moral harmony

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But there is no right to food that must be taken from another by force merely because someone is hungry. Nor is there a right to healthcare or education when those must be provided involuntarily by another person

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If demanding provision from another were a right, it would contradict the presumption of self-ownership. To claim a right to another's labor or products is to negate the right to one's own body and its fruits

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If an individual cultivates food, neighbors may request aid, and others may choose to help out of compassion, but there is no moral claim to compel the transfer.

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No one gains the right to seize another's bread by force, nor to enlist politicians to do so on their behalf, regardless of votes

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Such claimed rights lack defined limits from the start. Which food would be owed? How much? Must it be organic?

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A right to healthcare — which treatments, which practitioner, basic bandages or advanced MRIs, the best machine or last year's model? These claims become absurd upon examination

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Moral principles should not be self-contradictory on matters fundamental to civilization. There cannot be a right to the product of others

Requests and appeals are permissible, but not demands or enslavement

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You pay taxes right? Is this basically a ploy for free markets and let it handle things?
Social safety nets are a vital right, and we should have single payer healthcare not tied to an employer as well.

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