The "joys" of home ownership part 2

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If you are looking for part 1 of this series, you would have to go all the way back to 2020. That's where the story starts unfortunately. 2020 was a bad year for a lot of us. Covid related lockdowns were just starting to get started and none of us really knew the long term impact this was going to have on us.

I suffered a pretty severe injury to my leg that has caused some mild to minor changes in my life. We had a tree fall on our deck, our region of the state suffered a "once every 600 years flood", and we ended up with a hole in our front yard.

And that was all within the first six months of the year!

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This was the first repair, my buddy Mike brought his crew out and they started to dig along our driveway. About five feet down they found an old tile that had been crushed and was leaking water every time one of the sump pumps ran from the houses along the street.

It cost me about $1500, but they patched the break and I thought we were good to go.

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Fast forward two years and sure enough, a new break in the line exposed itself about 10 to 20 feet North of the original one. Right on the property line, but our neighbors seemed to have zero interest in getting it fixed.

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Even when it flooded our front yards like this.

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I caught this photo at the very moment one of the sump pumps was running. You can see the water bubbling up from the ground. It was almost comical to watch if you weren't so worried about how much it was going to cost to fix it.

You could actually see the ground around the hole heave and settle when the water came flowing up.

We had a fairly dry summer this year, so getting it fixed wasn't too high on my radar. Plus, the first company I called said they wouldn't be able to get a crew on site to fix it until summer of 2023.

Eventually, I called a different company and they were more than happy to come help out.

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When they came to do the initial inspection, I wasn't able to be home. They talked to @mrsbozz and she explained to them exactly what was going on. I'm still really happy with the job they did, but they made a fundamental mistake on that first meeting with my wife. Maybe they were busy, maybe it was because she is a woman, but they didn't listen to her and that ended up costing them a lot of time when they finally showed up yesterday.

If you look at the previous photos you will see that my buddy had to rent an excavator to do the job. The people yesterday came out with a hydro vac truck. They thought the break was going to be a foot or two down and they were going to be able to easily repair it.

Like I said, my wife was very clear with them that the tile was five or six feet down and had they listened, they could have saved some time.

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The opening photo is the results of them hydro vac'ing the area. Yes, they exposed the tile and the break (about six feet down), but they didn't clear a large enough area to fix it. They ended up needing to get their excavator to dig a larger hole.

Actually, let me back up a bit. At this point they called me out and asked me what I wanted to do. The worker was pretty sure this should be an issue covered by the township. I knew the township wouldn't want to take responsibility, but I called them anyway.

To my surprise, two guys from the township showed up in less than 10 minutes to check it out. As expected, they passed the buck and promised they would call the drain commission and the road commission.

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You see, this tile runs the length of the road, each house has a sump pump that feeds into the tile then the tile runs into the storm sewer and that storm sewer runs into a drainage ditch on the other side of the road from us.

The worker I hired contended that if everyone's sump runs into it and it connects to the storm sewer then it is part of the storm drain system and not our responsibility to fix it. It wasn't much of a surprise when each of the municipalities showed up and said "nope, not our problem, that is up to the homeowner to fix".

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Needless to say, the worker I hired thought it was "BS" that everyone was passing the buck, but we kind of expected that too. They excavated the area and cut the tile, then they added a patch with a couple of Fernco connectors. The picture above is the end result.

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Our dog Jovi was doing an excellent job of supervising the whole thing. I took the day off and stayed home with her so we could make sure everything was completed to our satisfation.

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I was pretty impressed with how well they cleaned up after the giant mess they made getting to the break. The guy let me know that the ground would probably settle where they filled the hole. He said to let him know and he would come back out with some topsoil to cover it up. He said they don't usually do that, but he felt bad about how the township and county was shafting me.

I plan on hiring a landscaper this fall to come out and treat my front lawn anyway, so I will likely have them do some cleanup over there so I can be sure to have grass growing again next spring.

The thing that really drives me crazy is the fact that there is no guarantee this tile won't break again somewhere else. In fact, now that we have patched this weakest point, it is very likely it will break again somewhere else.

At this point my only hope is that it isn't on my property. Not that I wish ill on anyone else, but I have already dumped $3500 into the two repairs of this tile that really shouldn't be my responsibility.

Although my friend only charged me $1500 there was a reason I went with a different company that charged more money this time. For one, my friend is very busy and it would have taken away his regular work to try and fit me in. Two, the company I hired was able to pressure test the tile both ways to at least ensure it was clear.

Realistically, the whole tile needs to be tore up and replaced the entire length of the road, but no one is going to want to tear up driveways and eat the cost to do that.

Like I said, it's not a question of "if" it fails again, it is a questions of "when". I just hope it isn't on my property next time.

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Supervising is hard work. As you can see, Jovi was plain tuckered out from all the excitement of the day!

I do have some peace knowing it is taken care of, but I just have that lingering dread in the back of my mind that it is going to happen again...


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Sorry to hear of your troubles my friend a tough string of events reminds me of the quote "it never rains but it pours"
Wishing you luck and success in your situation my friend hopefully you do not lose any more money of it.
Thanks for sharing on Listnerds
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I hope so too! I got lucky that I was able to cover this cost, but if it happens too many more times I might be in a tough spot. Part of me feels like I should have just had them replace the whole line on my property, but that would have been so costly!

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Yeah it is difficult my friend i feel like this is something you should be able to claim back some how? or even just some of it would lesson the blow, otherwise that is a really shit lottery in your neighbourhood mate
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@bozz! Your Content Is Awesome so I just sent 1 $BBH (Bitcoin Backed Hive) to your account on behalf of @benthomaswwd. (17/20)

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Yeah, that is the long and short of it too. Eventually someone else is going to have this same problem. Whether it is me or one of my neighbors. My thinking is maybe one of them will feel like being more of a "Karen" about it than me and actually cause some waves. It won't get my money back, but until it happens to them most people are like oh, that sucks for you man.

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Yeah i hear ya mate bit of a shitty situation, wishing you the best hopefully it will be somewhere is next time i am sure there is a Ms or Mrs Karen out there ready to kick off !LOL
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I've often wondered would we just be better off going back to basic houses with crawl spaces rather than basements? Seems like if we have to install sump pumps in all the houses to keep the water out, it might be better to not have the basements :D I do understand the benefits of basements, just somewhat amusing how we like to taunt mother nature and her hydrostatic pressures.

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I'm not saying I am a fan of basements, but growing up in a house with a crawlspace and dreading having to go in there every time there was a tornado warning, I am all for basements. I'm actually to the point where I just want to live in a condo and then all of this sort of stuff really is someone else's problem. The only issue is most condos won't let me park my travel trailer in the driveway!

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This is a huge problem with sunken costs and canal work in towns. Tragedy of the commons in action. Good to see you got your problem sorted out though.

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For now anyway! The good news is they billed it in separate amounts so I was able to spread it across two checks without needing to hammer my savings too hard.

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It seems the time for surprise extra costs. I just got hammered on car repairs too. Hopefully you will make that back and more once crypto reaches a new ATH.

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I hope so too! Car repairs are the worst! I have been in that position more than once before too!

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You can tell that was a big job; it exhausted Jovi. It would be a hard battle to get the city to pay I am sure. I have my fingers crossed "NO MORE BREAKS".

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Thanks, I appreciate that! At least not on my property or until my wife and I move on to a new house!

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I wish i have a supervisor like yours! 😆

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Fabulous supervisor!

I have a similar issue with the rain water gutter on my roof. The question is always where is the next weak spot going to be and when will you find water trickling down the walls. It's been patched, re-roofed, re-cut, siliconed, tarred, injected and recut again. The only good news is the repairs are not as hefty as yours ... as long as you don't include the internal damage ...

I called one builder one time and he said, "my advice is to move". 😂

Here's hoping you've caught the weak spot and the tile sustains for many years.

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Thanks, I hope so too. That sounds horrible your issue. At least mine is all outside. We had our basement flood once and internal water damage is the worst!

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That is incredible, @bozz
You are sitting on a ticking time bomb, lol

It does not surprise me that the municipalities denied responsibility.

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Yeah, it makes me wonder where it is going to pop up next!

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This is where you call your Federal Gov't official and explain the situation.Also call the ombudsman and get them involved.To get things done on a municipal level federal officials have to be involved.This passing the buck shit has to stop and it doesn't matter where the hell you live.You can put a band-aid on this cut if it's still bleeding.The county will eventually have to fork out the tax payers money to fix the road cause it will have to be opened up.That'll be when your neighbors will wake up and cause havic, cause there lives will be disrupted over something that should have been fixed properly the first time.

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I don't disagree. At this point I am just going to wait and see if it happens again on my land. I have a message in to my insurance agent to see if they cover it.

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I think it's ONE of some things, dogs will never understand about their humans.... why are dogs not allowed to dig holes in the soil, but the humans can do it? ;-) !LOL
Jovi is a beauty and for you I hope this will not happen again!

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Haha, good point! Me too!

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