Who Benefits From Negative Interest Rates?

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Hey JessInvestors

If you asked any economists 10 years ago about the possibility of negative interest rates, they would have laughed you out of the room yet now it's a reality for countries around the world. European countries peaked out and have overleveraged their balance sheets and are a great example of where many countries will have to go to remain liquid while being insolvent.

Lowering interest rates to stimulate borrowing, spending and hopefully economic growth is a theory we've hammer to death and if it doesn't work, it just means more is needed. Once countries in Europe got to 0 they effectively ran out of ammo, and have gone negative in places like Denmark and Germany.

You other large economies like the US, Canada, UK and the Aussies are also pushing near 0% or 0% and it's only a matter of time before they go negative too.

What is negative interest rates?

If a central bank implements negative rates, that means interest rates fall below 0%. In theory, negative rates would boost the economy by encouraging consumers and banks to take more risk through borrowing and lending money.

Negative interest rates for retail banks would mean lending out money and expecting less money back when looking at the principle. For example, if they lent you $100 000 over 10 years at -1% you'd only have to pay back $94 876 meaning you saved $5,124.95.

So now you're telling me but that's cool, the bank technically pays you to borrow money but this is only looking at half the story.

Firstly, the banks aren't going to let you get away with it ad they going to add all sorts of fees to make back the shortfall and have financial products that help them profit even when the interest rates are negative.

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Balancing the balance sheet

A negative interest for loans also means a negative interest for your savings, this is where the danger comes in. It effectively forces savers to risk their capital and spend it into the real economy instead of losing their potential earnings.

That's right you work hard, you pay your taxes, then they debase it with inflation and then finally take what you had put away with negative interest rates.

Negative interest rates are a new tax you didn't vote for but will have to pay.

Who benefits from negative interest rates?

Naturally, the banks do since they get to eat into your savings each month along with the bank charges they nail you with and can now effectively tap into a larger pool of cash reserves since they've maxed out on selling consumers toxic loans.

Central banks also benefit as they are effectively going long volatility, what they lose on the negative interest rates, they gain on the positive interest they get from what they purchase such as corporate bonds or possibly equities in the future like the bank of Japan.

If rates go negative

If rates go negative in your neck of the woods and you have no savings or below the cash reserves they have set for negative interest rates to kick in I suppose you're fine for now.

I would, however, look at storing any additional surplus in currencies that don't have negative interest rates.

This could be holding another fiat currency, purchasing stable coins or holding Bitcoin or Gold. You will need to do the research and pick the tools or mix you prefer best.

Negative interest rates are not a complete death sentence for an economy but it is signs that it's heading towards one. Either I am wrong and debt, deficits, GDP and money velocity don't matter at all and economics is a waste of time, or I am right and this is telltale signs for currency coming collapse.

Have your say

What do you good people of HIVE think? Is negative interest rates just another way to move wealth to the rich?

So have at it my Jessies! If you don't have something to comment, comment "I am a Jessie."

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We have had it some years. But only thoose with a lot of money have to pay - or just move money to special accounts.
Who benefits from it? Well - most it is big companies with big debts because the rate will be 0,5-1 % at loans.
Will the bank benefit from it - Well I do not see it as a good thing for them really.But of course they earn money - but I can not see that they earn more because of this. Do you?

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Like you say it’s the bigger company’s and bigger banks that benefit, they get paid to borrow the money and then put their margin on it,so they can get it for -1 and give it to you for -0.25 Along with fees and other stuff so they can keep going

It also helps pay off old debt with cheaper debt and allows you to do even more money printing from borrowing so you can continue to inflate the money supply to pay the old debt with new cheaper money

It might only affect the top savers now but they’ll keep moving that goal posts as there’s only so many people at the top once they desk them they need to move lower

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Wait a second... You use "ecency" tag. why? Or is it automatic when you post in mobile? I have ecency in mobile but have not start to use it in computer yet

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It's probably automated when you respond from the app

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Every time I read your stuff, I just see the manipulative abilities of the bank. To think that they are helping investor and yet they are finding ways to sap from them is so scary..

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People still think banks are businesses but how can they be when they the only game in town? If you don’t like one business or the other you go to their competitor or you leave the market for another market

But with banks most people are trapped once they have an account and don’t bother closing it or opting out so banks can focus only on what benefits them and not benefitting the customer to generate a profit

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But with banks most people are trapped once they have an account and don’t bother closing

This is the main trap most people fall into including myself. The question lies on how one will use crypto in a
country that doesn't accept crypto?

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You don't, you move countries, all you need your 12 phrase passcode and off you go to a new country with your wealth and no one can take it from you. It only takes one country to be crypto-friendly to undo everyone trying to ban it

Go where you are treated best, I'm still waiting to see how countries deal with all of this and then make my decision on where I will move to

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Hmmm.... I will just stick to having small funds in the bank when I start making enough

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That’s also what I’m thinking as crypto becomes more mature I’ll invest more and then just have enough fiat for bills and stuff! More money working for me the better

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Try explaining that to your friends and family and you are a loony!

It will be interesting to see how the negative interest rates will change the mentality here in the UK,we're currently at 0.25% or around that and I was telling a few people, just wait until it goes minus... Now I'm the weirdo... Still!

Oh well, cheers for the sats 😀

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Lol well you're closer than me, home loans are around 10% and the bank used to give us 7.2% on the best account which I naturally was on, but now its down to 1.9% which isn't worth anyones time, basically getting negative interest rates here when you use the fisher effect to factor in inflation.

Now imagine me telling people that, when they only know how to count on their figures? I am just trying to help, no ones going to listen, so well all I can do is stack sats.

My hope is that BTC becomes the pristine collateral and banks bend over backwards to borrow against it and we can have some damn breathing room to purchase a home or you know have human rights

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Lol, we haven't had anywhere near that amount of interest rate for a very long time, maybe since 2008 or whenever the Conservatives came in! It's been milling around 0.1%-0.75% for a while, even though we briefly got to 1% pre-covid which felt like a massive result, actually, inflation is 3% so you're still losing money by not spending it lol!

Not sure why I haven't spent my excess cash at the moment on sats, would like another form of investment though and have my own music studio (basically real estate) - just have to be patient and wait for the right moment - BTC and real estate, holy shit, what a combo!

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Yeah after 08 Europe peaked out when it comes to yields, and people went nuts with the low-interest rates and bought up real estate and inflated homeownership which is why millennials can't afford a damn thing.

I was listening to the investor podcast (TIP) and they were talking about how some companies are now swapping out cash they store on their balance sheet and switching it out for Bitcoin, its called MicroStrategy Incorporated they trading as a public company and now own 250 million in BTC

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Taking loans whether on negative interest rate from the banks is never a good move and should be avoided if possible. They always have that long T&C which most of us will never read and will come back biting us hard.

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LOL you make a good point, luckily for me I earn too little and have no credit record so they banks won’t even touch me!

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Indeed it does not make sense for banks to give out loans and losing money. They certainly find ways to squeeze out profit in certain ways.

!tip

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They’re never going to be the suckers stuck holding the bag, that’s for the consumer, as long as we have no choice but to use them as our settlement layer we need to play by their rules

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I hope we don't go negative interest rates in Australia 😱

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I don’t know how much room the RBA has left to go before they have to consider it but I heard they may be looking to repatriate their gold from England to try and sure up their banks but we’ll see how the Aussie government is also one of those that will flip on you in a second

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