12 Days of Christmas; 17th Century Colonial Mexico Philip IV 8 Reales Cob
A very special piece that was formerly listed on my ‘No-hope-in-hell-of-getting’ list has been made possible from my late Roommate before she departed. Deb knew I would love to have a few authentic period silver pieces mixed in my replica treasures and thus a piratey item is checked off my Christmas Wish List.
“Black birds tend to like shiny things.” ~ The Bloody Raven.
Deb’s modest life insurance covered all funeral expenses, legal expenses, paid off the outstanding home repair loan in full, covered the outstanding debt on the car, and replenished our bare bones Emergency funds.
She even wanted to cover my elder son’s remaining college loan. That still left some leftover funds. I suggested, “A donation to our Church?”
Deb replied, “Some but I want you to get something for yourself first, I've been with you long enough that there are a few coins I know you have dreamt about so why not get them. I want you to be happy for me.” She clutched my left hand tighter, “I know you’re gonna have it tough after I’m gone. Don’t feel any guilt spending it okay?” She squeezed my hand and smiled.
She meant it. I put my pad and pen down and hugged her tight once again, a sniffle leaked out from my heart to my throat and we giggled a bit.
I know what you're thinking, these coins look like crap so they call them cobs so I'd agree but in my pirate heart they are awesome pieces of eight history. The Spanish literally minted them by the ship loads and be damned with quality control because the Spanish war machine accepts only real money in coin or cob.
Coining technology hasn’t really changed much over the thousands of years since the first coins were hammered into existence. A simple premeasured poured gold, silver, or bronze alloy button is heated up before being stamped between a pair of matched dies via a hammer blow.
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The Spanish or Colonial Mexico silver cob were well circulating by the time the Golden Age of Piracy came to be from 1650 to 1730s well before the development of the coin milling using some form of machinery.
Most coinage was of reasonably fair quality and consistent so long as demand for currency remained gradually consistent. However that wasn’t the case as frequent wars, growing worldwide commerce and the enormous flow of gold and silver from the western hemisphere put mints at maximum capacity. At which mints churned out cobs of various shapes other than round as long as they were the right amount and the markings are reasonably recognizable.
The cob I have here today for you has enough details to make it identifiable. It’s condition is remarkably light in wear for it’s apparent age and may have been cleaned not long ago judging from the lack of lustre. Present are a series of test holes at the 9 o’clock position of the obverse with a few small chops. The cob is 6 to 7 mm smaller in diameter but thicker as if the hammer blow wasn’t sufficient enough to increase the diameter to the standard 39mm size. The weight was slightly over the expected weight.
With the smaller diameter, this cob ended up lacking 90% of it’s inscription of it’s original intended design. On the Obverse only a fragment of the inscription remain “…I·G·16…” of “…·DEI·G·16xx…” I felt sure the second digit is 6 since 0 or 8 could not be possible. The Shield Crest configuration is identified with King Philip IV 1605-1665 confirming a coin with a 16xx date. The oMP letters located left of the shield indicate the Mexico Mint under the mint master identified as P which sets the mintage dates between 1634 to 1665. BINGO!
Thus this cob is identified as 16xx Colonial Mexico 8 Reales – Philip IV
Easy cheesy pirate peasey.
Am I wrong? Let me know in the comments below.
I like this chunky little Cob, it's a common mintage compared many others yet it is truly an authentic piece that seen trade for hundreds of years after minting. I'm not sure of the test holes, but the little chop marks put these circulating in China for a short while before being locked away for decades after.
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12 Days of Christmas Wish list posts;
Day 1; 2013 $50 Canada HMS Shannon & The USS Chesapeake
Day 2; 2017 2 oz.Davy Jones Locker silver round, Privateer Series.
Day 3; 2013 $1 Tuvalu The Dementer, Famous Ships that never sailed series.
Day 4; 2015 Finding Silverbug Island Community Round.
Day 5, St. Bee’s Silver Throwing Star.
Day 6, 2022 $5 Niue Grand Shipwrecks of the World; San Jose.
12 Days of Christmas Wish List Fulfilled posts;
Day 7, A Gift from my Mentor; Gold Spartan’s Silver Pirate ship V2.
Day 8, A gift from my Secret Santa Predatum in Mundo.
Day 9, A gift from @enginewitty; 2022 Samoa 2 Tala Princess of the seas.
Day 10, A gift from my late Roommate; 16xx Colonial Mexico Philip IV 8 Reales Cob.
Day 11, A gift from Nyssacat; 1622 Type 2 Atocha Fantasy 8 Reales
Day 12, The Finale.
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PCGS; The History of Hammered & Milled Coinage.
Wiki; King Philip IV of Spain.
Cameo Raven Brooch from The Black Wardrobe.
3.5 Troy oz. 3D Pirate ship by the Gold Spartan.
Silversaver’s 2023 Hive Silver Round, to order this 2023 Hive round.
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Such a touching story of how this came to be. Thank you for sharing!
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It's been a rough last two years as we battled Cancer together, even though Cancer was not my field specialty I could only do my best to make her remaining time comfortable. We've been best friends and living together for over twenty years. She has such a beautiful soul, I miss her.
this coins might be prohibited from trading so owning them after ur client's death makes u automatically a suspect lol. reversal codes can be easily broke when its controvercial how ur reverse was this poor ladies reverse. wishin u what u aimin to get from it. u might be surpriced with ur own xray too in a few months. real shit goes in chests, they say. Arr lol
Client? Oh, you don't know our backstory. Your inquisitiveness have read in more into this than necessary. Deb and I have been friends and roommates for a long time and closer than you'd think. Besides, I got receipts. Arr! ☠️
keep them in ur reach, they missplace easily lol
"black birds tend to choke on stolen things"~
I think we're missing some context here, can you elaborate?
nah, i might add mine later as u go on with ur posts
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Good. Beautiful coin. Old coins are very interesting as they come with a story behind them. This one, must be special, as it also comes with your own story. A life story. I know you will enjoy it, and it will always carry the memory of that great friend.
Deb sometimes contributes into my blogs and understands my interests and passion for history. While I like to research the story behind what I collect sometimes I seemed to have added a personal story behind it's acquisition, Hive brought that out from me.
She wanted me to be happy, seeing a wish fulfilled within our friendship is important for her.
Thank you @luisdey
It is always nice to have something material that changes its importance to sentimental. It is beautiful to remember those people who have been important to you.
This coin will look so valuable and expensive right
Personalty precious is more like it.
Thanks for dropping in @biyimi
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May the client’s soul Rest In Peace
u said enough "sista"
Deb has been my best friend and roommate for well over twenty years. My heart has been filled with so many great memories, I will deeply miss her.
That's a cool piece of history! Congratulations!
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I can't wait to see it! 😁
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Epic and historical, sis! CONGRATULATIONS.
Memories. They stay with us forever, in our hearts forever.
xoxo
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We know how some silver we treasure we tend to associate with certain friends, the real treasure that is in our hearts.
One more special one to come.
Day 12, once was lost but now it's found.
Always, with love 🤗🌺❤️
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I think you are correct, these are pieces of history @kerrislravenhill!😊
“ no hope of ever getting “………….
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It’s 2.3°F here this morning, I’m sure where you are it’s not much different!🥶
This will be my among my most prized pieces and a part of my family story to be handed down to the next generations. Just in, 😮 wait until you see the Day 12 Finale.
-12 C at lunch time here.
Thanks @silvertop
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Stay warm this weekend, my friend !😊
Looking forward to your day 12 final post !🤗
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Deb has been a contributing part to my blog a few times. She regularly sits within 1.5 meters to my right and I often get her opinion on collecting versus stacking. We're a team. She well knows my style.
Two more to go, wait until you get a load of Day 12, the finale.
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If only that coin or cob could talk. What a great listen that would be for sure……
It's so cool to have a few genuine authentic era pieces hidden among all my silver replicas. This variant of Stackitis is loads of fun if one can pay the price. ☠️
Coming up; Day 11 and the Finale Day 12.
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.The old things and the story that they have are very special and interesting, all these things look very beautiful.
I will cherish this gift from Deb as well as our many memories together.
Thank you @djbravo
Beyond awesome! That is seriously sweet! Nothing like an authentic piece of eight! All the pirates were out looking for them!
By the way, congrats! You won 3 HSBI today!
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I recall your post on a silver cob.
Deb knows I have lots of fun with my own treasure chest sitting on the coffee table, guests don't realize it handling the replica coins thinking them as fake coins and bars but surprised discovering that they are investment grade silver.
A treasure hidden in plain sight.
Now sprinkle in a few genuine pirate era coins will blow their minds. Owning an authentic 'Pieces of Eight' has been a long time wish to get a typical Cob but also the legendary Pillar as well. So hold on to your hat when you see Day 12's epic wish fulfilled.
Next is Day 11.
Thanks for HSBI @thebighigg
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Human Friendships like GOLD are Eternal............. It's a Pirate Thing Folks
#PirateSunday
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Any old gold Escudos are still way beyond my affordability but who knows what could be granted by some generous Santa with deeper pockets than my friends.
Dreams of discovering sunken treasures!
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Very, very cool to hold something that old in your hand! If only it could talk and tell you of it's travels! Awesome! Take care sis!🤗💜 !LADY
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I can safely say that this has been to China, not very far where it was spent.
Thanks @elizabethbit
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Ravens Love Shiny Things............ Have a Great Day Ms. Ravenhill @kerrislravenhill
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Brings back memories of our YouTube days.
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You already know as I mentioned it yesterday but I will say it again, I'm SOOO happy for you that these coins found their way home after all. It was not my magic as you asked, but I did spent a bit of time strongly visualizing that you would get these coins after all because it was clear this was heart-breaking if they didn't. I can only imagine the joy you felt when they appeared, I'm so happy for you!
On another note, I can see how you adore these coins. Even without the full history, I think there's something magical in these ancient coins even if they look imperfect. I've held some of the not so nicely looking once over the past flea market visits myself, but none of these come close to what you're sharing here!
I bet every time you see them, hold them, your friend is in your mind and she'll smile down on you while she knows you have these two pieces in your collection thanks to her. These stories tear me up, but I'm very happy this one had a happy ending for you!
Much love <3
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Deb said to remember of our happiest memories together.
She hoped to make it to Christmas, we even had her hospice room decorated with snowflakes hanging from the ceiling, and we put up a Christmas tree with lights by mid September and then hatched a plan to have a Christmas party on Thanksgiving day in October with gift exchange.
She never made it to October.
The second silver coin as purchased late November with a good chance of having it by Christmas but that day came and went. I made regular inquires of it's status until January 9th when the HK courier company admitted that they could not locate it and considered it lost.
The chain-of-possession protocol failed, I can easily put the blame on a certain governmental office that should have signed off from the Courier but didn't. I have my theory. Postage service in Canada become much worse than it used to. Silversaver sent a gift last year and that got lost and never arrived.
I will always have Tracking and Insurance.
The rest is history.
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One of two awesome history pieces!
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Shhh, don't spill the beans on the last coin.😉
KLR
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