RE: TravelFeed 3.0, Independence And Cross-Posting

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Here let me help summarize this post since it is quite unruly and people may miss the important stuff.

"With all that's going on, we currently neither see Hive nor Steem as a reliable platform to build a business, nor there are any incentives for apps to build on either chain."

You forgot to add "we are simply here to make money as fast as possible and don't give a fuck about supporting the platform we build on"

I hope everyone shows Travelfeed they are wrong with their downvotes.

If you have no incentive to be on Hive then why the hell would you be on Hive? Move on to some other chain and use them.



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It's not the dApps that have to support a blockchain, it's a blockchain that suports dApps... no blockchain would reach any value if people don't build on them.

We've always been against using Steem/Hive for user retention, however, with SMTs taking for ever to launch, we had no other option.

You forgot to add "we are simply here to make money as fast as possible and don't give a fuck about supporting the platform we build on"

TravelFeed has never touched a single penny of its stake to cover costs, it's been used for more than 2 years to reward users, everything else came out of our pockets! Over this same time we've reached many people to help support us, with a no from the vast majority.

Can we end up creating our own token on Hive if it evolves? Yes... but with the current war going on I'm not so sure that any serious developer is gonna join.

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HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT!!! OUR TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING FOR FREE FOR 2 YEARS AND WE DIDN'T GET THE SUPPORT FROM THOSE PEOPLE TROLLING US NOW EVEN BEFORE THIS DECISION.

The co-founders have been using their own money to fund the costs of TravelFeed. We have been in (literal physical) danger and yet we chose to still work on this!

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You got it all wrong again and I won't let you reduce the love, sweat and blood I and the entire TravelFeed Team put into the blockchain and into our project to be just being here to cash in.

All this work we put in, to only to wake up one morning to find out that there was a HF been worked on for weeks - a post to let us know the fork will happen in 2 days notice. It's a huge deal and our platform was entirely streamlined to work on Steem. Releasing that the work we put in doesn't seem to matter to anyone working on that fork and knowing that we won't be able to adjust with a 2 days notice, resulting in destroying the functionality of our platform we fully dedicated to one blockchain. The user base we were building for over 2 years dealing with a broken platform for days! Sorry, we won't let that happen again.

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The fork was the solution to the steem Centralization due an attack. Nobody force you not to continue with steem if you can't see the potential with Hive.

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At the current state we don't see potential on neither of the two, that's the state until we are proven wrong.

Our business plan depends highly on reliability, that's why we've decided to run independent, but also let our users cross-post on other platforms outside of TravelFeed.

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Actually JP already admitted that it wasn't due to issues integrating and lack of time (as help was actually offered for that) it was that no money was offered. So you guys should get on the same page.

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2 days to move to a new blockchain? I don't call that a lot of notice. In the meantime the Inner Circle has been working on the fork for two weeks, not thinking to maybe give applications a quick heads-up? Oh wait the Hive Eco System didn't seem to have too many problems to swing da switch.

Again please don't reduce our project to the money factor - if that's our main focus we would have stopped a long time ago. TravelFeed is a project of love and passion.

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You can see the screenshots - it’s clear the focus.

As far as the timing, yes it was short notice. I have personal DMs to you were we discuss that and I offer any technical support needed.. which was never asked for. All that was asked for was whether money would be provided.

As far as the other.. the convo for another chain happened in the Steemit dev slack weeks prior, which your team is a part of (I’m not). Looks like you guys weren’t keeping up to date on information (clear as you didn’t know the plans of your api provider either, even though it was announced) and therefore weren’t in on any planning prior to the announcement. After the announcement we had a conversation, and help was offered.

You can keep making excuses all you want and pretending this is some conspiracy theory.. but facts are very easy to find.

I’m sorry you feel you weren’t included, everyone was working pretty hard to make things happen.. and no one was babied or reached out to personally - everyone had the personal responsibility to stay up to date on information, ask for more if it wasn’t clear, ask to be added to chats if needed for additional help and essentially work to ensure their projects were ready to go - even if it was only 3 days notice to integrate an app. Seems many found it to be plenty of time and complimented the ease of integration provided. (Which was due to all that core work done for the few weeks).

So feel free to stomp your feet all you want and respond in gifs, cry on twitter using false claims etc.

The truth is easy to find, and most can be seen in those screenshots. So I understand the focus to make a project successful, no need to shit on everyone trying to help you in the process. Also no reason to try to blame everyone else for the issues you encountered. Plenty of help was available.. but no, no one offered you a check.

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Why is it ok for Peakd to be part of the the Hive eco system when the same developers are running
Steempeak supporting Steem?

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They aren't going around saying "apps dont need blockchains, blockchains need apps" and "neither hive nor steem offer any incentive to build a business on" while sucking the teet of the Steem/Hive reward pool and begging for delegations.

Your team shows a fundamental lack of knowledge regarding what a blockchain is, at least JPPhotography, and how to present your product/company as an investment opportunity.

It is your job to sell yourself to me not vice versa.

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Asking for delegations yes, who didn't with a project or applications but you can't say that we've been deep down the crack, leaving it spiffy clean just to get a delegation.

So now projects supporting STEEM who are not us or ok on HIVE? You said it!

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Yes, as an investor I would love to work with your team. /s

You guys repel investors; and you are surprised you lack funding.

You guys have no real traffic; and you are surprised you lack funding.

You keep wasting time with me, an individual that wants nothing to do with TravelFeed, instead of working internally with your team and improving your app/product to be more inviting to investors. Keep wasting time arguing in the comments. And it isn't just one of your team, but several.

I spend some time, as a Hive stakeholder, curating content on the blockchain. That means upvoting valuable content and downvoting non-valuable or abusive content. I have made my mind up regarding TravelFeed and when I see the posts I will vote accordingly.

Have a good day, sir.

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Since you guys can’t seem to actually listen to anything anyone is telling you and are not open to actually working with anyone.. just being assholes on social media.. I’ll copy my reply to this comment below here:

Ok this is just ridiculous. So let's actually discuss why JP was pretty much told to GTFO as it's not about running on both Hive and Steem, as many apps are doing.BA0964FD5FCE4F0C822E21371D31F56E.jpeg
Rather due to the fact that there was absolutely no personal responsibility as well as blaming everyone else for the issues TF faced after the HF (which they had prior knowledge of).The "issues" outlined in the announcement about API's being unreliable- 47048D1C22D44DB782693F680084B043.jpeg197C0D7F378844D2AF1547CB37BB505F.jpeg So a free service that Anyx provides (and Travelfeed depends on) announced they would be moving to Hive. JP didn't read this announcement and felt anyx should have come to him directly. And now let's get to the real issue here as it was stated that there was no time or help offered to get TF implemented to Hive in time as you only heard of the HF 3 days before (not the day before as you say in your post)- 5750AA17935844B888F63E06ED4E7B74.jpeg405D29B71E6949548437D2BA34AC9F66.jpegD845C027F1294FB6922DBD5471CDC056.jpegBAEBD8EA346A4FCA938D30015B5F3932.jpegC065F112BE554AB4A5DAA8A8337058AB.jpeg80E3D8065EEF459A9E65DD481BBE7B9F.jpegEFCF90DBD4B94283BF6A4394222BE2BD.jpeg75D86F660F344422991FA73A7380D5F6.jpeg71E93514FC194B0A8FDCAFEF32C87499.jpeg68564A4A51CC4954ABF0DCE894E318B0.jpegFF7853FF21B544C88FA1F8922E7D00FA.jpegC51D4FD041E9414AADFE9A65DDE3CED2.jpeg
So again he mentioned the frustration was that Travelfeed wasn't offered funding to come to Hive (as well, it's clear that is the only real issue here)
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He ignored the fact that there was a chain being built and it was a bit chaotic. That many people were working together to ensure apps could migrate easily and everyone was working together.. as a team.. to ensure Hive was ready. All without funding. \n\nSo then it was shown why Steem is an important factor for TF -BA63FFCE55E6495892EA6F2891A4C620.jpegFC66A94B328641DD9B2D5879C6A2C007.jpeg

There was some discussion about how stating there was no incentive to build on either chain at the same time as using the rewards pool to incentivize users to post on TF as well as apply for delegation and essentially demand funding seemed a bit hypocritical... but he didn't want to hear it. He then went on to tell us all we were idiots. And that Steemit inc was clearly more intelligent than anyone at Hive because they would give you all delegations.

Mind you, during this.. many asked how much delegation was needed and actually stated they would have supported TF, but considering we all were still setting up the base infrastructure of the Hive chain, funding dApps hadn't come up yet.

JP’s inability to take any sort of personal responsibility as well as repeatedly stating that there was no value in Hive (accept of course the want to suck from the rewards pool) and essentially being an absolute asshole is the reason he was eventually removed from a chat room focused on Hive - as it was clear he had no interest in being there.

So, thanks so much for playing.. hopefully you get that Steemit inc delegation as it's clear that's your only focus.

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You're all mad that we took matters into our own hands? Are we after funding and delegations? What business isn't? Are we looking out for the interest of our users, hell yeah. Are we going to still exist with or without delegations, em yes! I think you'll extremely nervous realizing that there is a flaw in the way your "decentralization" is set up. Did some things all of sudden pop up, the "Inner Circle" hasn't thought about? Yeah, y'all continue to be mad at us, your welcome!

Don't pretend there was ever room for any other applications or curation project outside of the "inner circle". And please don't make it all about US SUPPORTING STEEM - we leave it into the hands of our users to decide where to publish their content. Will Hive and Steem be the only blockchains our users can publish to, no! Matter of fact we're talking to an other blockchain next week. And there are more to come.

Also your tone is more than unprofessional, so is posting chats of others which were semi private.

It seems like we were hitting some sensitive nerves without even trying:

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Doesn't really matter what some individual users are mad at right? Because your users (the few you have) are what is important.

Focus on building something worth an investor's attention and THEN go seek investment. At the moment, you dont have any real product and apparently WE hit some nerves to get your entire team showing great PR in the comments.

I am sure investors are watching your company replies and thinking "now that is a team I want to work with!".

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Imagine how your answers look like to outside of the Inner Circle developers.

Doesn't look too tempting to me!

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You respond with gifs in your comments while representing a "business" seeking investors and delegations.

You can't make this shit up.

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Gifs seem to be the only thing to get through to you!

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Business talk is looooong gone ... time to have some fun!

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No one is mad except you all.. who is going around bashing projects apparently based on “no help”.. when in fact it’s due to the fact no one offered you money to migrate.

I see no issue with looking for delegations or anything else.. but it’s a bit weird to say there is no value in building on a platform at the same time as wanting funding from it.

There is no inner circle.. there are a hundred plus people working their ass off together to make something. The excuses are lame.

Also, I’m not a professional.. I’m just some asshole on the internet who used to support you. And it’s a bit weird to question someone’s professionalism when responding in gifs tbh.

Felt the screenshots were pretty relevant as you guys are trying to spin something else.. no one cares if TF is on both chains and it probably would have gotten support if you guys would have went about it a different way.

Good luck.

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Lol. You think someone’s Individual account they made which apparently is for an upcoming project is proof of an inner circle? 😂

Are you serious?

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I think you're going to be quite surprised once you find out what innerHive actually is.

Thanks for the laugh, moron.

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