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Camera rotations using daylight (blue) and an animation playing on my mobile. See bottom for the animation.

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These are just the animation playing on my mobile

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And this is the animation that was playing on my mobile


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I'm not comfortable at all with the use of screens in LP shots.
For me, it's like cheating as you can display anything you want on a screen. The way I see it, it's like people using pixelstick to draw something they could draw by hand if they would work hard.
Don't take it personally Hugo because you shouldn't. I know @fastchrisuk & @fadetoblack also use screens (iPads) in their LP creations but I'm not into it. Maybe I'm just a hardore LP extremist 🤣

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A fundamentalist lightpainter haha!

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Yeah, a kind of I guess 🤣 🤣 🤣
I don't like Olympus' "Live Composite" mode too 😉

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live composite, 360 photography, computational photography... as long as the light painting process is the same they should be included in the light painting family. If we exclude them, analog film shooters could also argue that digital cameras in general can't be doing light painting because you can see the result straight away without developing first.

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Of course you're right! This is evolution and we cannot fight against it.

According to my point of view, The Live Composite mode gives really poor quality shots. I understand that it can be convenient when you shot at night in big cities with a lot of ambiant light but my personnal challenge is to overcome that issue and manage to do my thing without that "trick".

I see people giving LP classes using that mode. My opinion is that is the worst way to enter LP as it makes you lazy and you constantly check the camera screen instead of focusing on your body and the way you move it into space and time.
The way I see it, this mode can be useful for LP photocalls only, as it makes small mistakes disappear.

Talking about analog vs digital, the only difference for me is that you can see the result instantly. To avoid wasting a film, I used a digital camera to define the settings and, after that, replaced it with an analog camera (or worked with both at the same time).

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With live composite you can definitely see that it's not accumulative light, like regular photos are where the longer you expose the brighter it gets. It's a different capture method with different rules. I don't like the look much either. Also, I like seeing the end result only when I'm all done and not in between. There's a time for vieweing and a time for shooting. It's a waste of time if you already have your shot properly planned. It's part of the game. However what people do in front of these cameras with alternative capture methods can still be light painting.

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I'm totally down with that bud, it's well-said and it describes exactly my state of mind.

This discussion shows exactly why I cannot be the leader of a LP community : too narrow-minded to embrace the whole LP "family". I'm glad @mafufuma is way more open minded than me 😉

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It's ok bud. I won't get offended by an opinion. 🙂 I would agree with you that it's kind of cheating but only if that was the only thing happening in the shot. A single swipe of a Pixelstick or a screen is not requiring much light painting ability. On these shots however there's daylight being used in a way I haven't seen anyone else use before, camera rotation and skillful micro-movements on the shots without daylight. I also like to move filters in front of the lens when an animation is playing. The resulting effects are light painting photos in my opinion.

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I totally agree bud, that's why @fastchrisuk's right when he says I'm a LP fondamentalist 🤣 Maybe I have to open my mind a bit.

I love your serie and, of course, you put a lot of effort in it, not just put your phone screen in front of your camera. Incorporating daylight in LP shots is really tricky, result is smooth and crisp 😎

My point is that it seems too easy for me to use a picture on a screen and include it in a LP creation. So, I dont do it. But it doesn't seem that it's not allowed, I mean who am I to say what is "acceptable" and what's not? When I say "cheating", I mean it in my way of doing LP, as a personal boundary I don't want to cross 😉

This is one reason I like Hive : we can discuss quietly without receiving insults and threats. I did't see any kind of "e-thuggin" here fo now...

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Thanks. 🙂 Civil discussions about this touchy subject without people taking it personally are hard to come by on other platforms. yeah, no e-thuggin for now thankfully. But personally, I don't mind rough talk too much. If someone has reasonable arguments I'll try and refute then reasonably if I don't agree. If that doesn't work and the discussion leads to conflict then there's always sarcasm followed by ignoring. I never blocked anyone on social media.

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