What's the point to downvote a post until it reach zero rewards & zero payouts?

If you don't know the reason why, the most likely thing is that this article today will give you some clues on the issue.

Just ask yourself these questions:

  1. What is their purpose?
  2. What are their intentions?
  3. What is really their true goal?
  4. What are they really looking for?

After thinking about it and meditating it a bit for a while... don't you come to the same conclusion that any decent, honest, intelligent and reasonable person would?

That all this string of incurable bandits and brainless assholes who are dedicated to arbitrarily and unjustifiably downvote posts and legitimate content trying to get them to zero rewards and zero payouts are each one of them an unbearable plague of useless parasites and miserable leeches that must be eliminated immediately and without further contemplation out of this ecosystem? ¿Wouldn't this be your conclusion?

Oh yeah, I have written many times before on this important subject. After all, I've been a target of this shit for over a year non stop without anyone saying or doing anything about it. Without even the slightest explanation of why this happens. ¡WTF!

Just to give you a trio of clues about what I've written on this subject before, you might want to «click» on the link next below so you can better understand and verify what the hell I'm talking about:

https://hive.blog/hive-195212/@por500bolos/i-m-sorry-but-i-don-t-believe-these-mofos-are-gonna-be-able-to-save-their-sorry-little-ass

And if that post is not enough for you to have a better idea of what it's all about. Then you might want to «click» also on this other link below that talks abit more about the most recent history of our "social network" on the blockchain denouncing the ongoing increasing corruption and the nefarious practices within the ecosystem:

https://hive.blog/hive-195212/@por500bolos/outrageous-and-intolerable-corruption-in-the-hive-blockchain

And if it is to talk about "older history" and from where it comes and what is the origin and birth of all these fucking thieves and brainless assholes doing their thing freely with impunity. Without anyone here who has the true power to stop them, fire them, eliminate them and banish them, once and for all, out of our ecosystem. They do nothing because they don't have the balls to do it. Then you can «click» on this link below as well:

https://hive.blog/hive-195212/@por500bolos/once-upon-a-time-there-was-a-social-network-on-the-blockchain

And it is precisely on this "older history" that I am going to abound abit today, revealing more and better details about what is behind these repulsive and despicable practices of corruption and blatant looting in our "social network" on the blockchain.

Let's start with the Definition of a Whale in a Whale-like group.

Hey! ¿Why not "grey out" the downvote button once an user Hive Power (HP) has reached say > 384K HP?

¿Did you know that once upon a time when in our "social networks" on the blockchain within the on-chain market, there was a reward mechanism called "Liquidity Reward System" that paid users who provided liquidity to the market? «Source»

And then two accounts @adm and @abit through their early ninja-mining stake were buying from each other on the market, and then sent the do$h one to the other in an automated endless loop, generating liquidity points exploiting a bug in the system and raping the Liquidity Reward System to the detriment of everyone else at a rate of 1200 STEEM per Hour (~4k USD at the time) accumulating between the two accounts, approximately 43,000 STEEM, 266,000 STEEM Power, and 36,000 STEEM Dollars seven years ago when that specific Liquidity Reward System was in force taking advantage of the glitch only for their own exclusive and selfish benefit while they provided as little liquidity as possible for anyone else? «Source»

And what did this cutie say as an excuse in his defense after the serious accusation?

Thanks for the head up. It's me. If I don't do that, others will -- already detected indeed and some of my bot's strategies are to counter act on those. But it's sad that my bot is stupid enough and is losing much every day, for example more than 20K STEEM in last a few hours, kind of punishment. It's not funny at all. Competitions are welcomed, leave more orders on the book please.

Oh yeah! of course. Click on every word in colors thru these last paragraphs to know the naked truth. I am not making up anything! I am actually giving you the sources.

Let's check now some interesting sneaky maneuvers between these two whale accounts.

¡Open well your eyes and pay attention please!

That this is just alittle bit of extra information. ¡Check this out!

https://hiveblocks.com/@alittle
https://hiveblocks.com/@alot
https://hiveblocks.com/@aload
https://hiveblocks.com/@aton
https://hiveblocks.com/@abunch
https://hiveblocks.com/@apuff
https://hiveblocks.com/@afew
https://hiveblocks.com/@apinch
https://hiveblocks.com/@apiece
https://hiveblocks.com/@atip
https://hiveblocks.com/@ahint
https://hiveblocks.com/@adash
https://hiveblocks.com/@adrop
https://hiveblocks.com/@aspray
https://hiveblocks.com/@adeal
https://hiveblocks.com/@abitminer1
https://hiveblocks.com/@abitminer2

Oh! and of course there are many more conniving & unscrupulous accounts like these within the Hive blockchain. But I said that I would just give abit of extra information only. But in any case, these are the most relevant alt accounts to check about its selfish, illegal and nefarious practices if you are really interested in clarifying the subject in all its splendor. Anyway, I know you're not going to bother checking them all. So... ¡WTF!

But to not digress too much and stray too far from the main topic of this post. Let's go back to what I highlighted at the beginning of this article. ¿Are you ready?

¡Watch The Clouds!

Just as I already mentioned, described and highlighted it very clearly in the three previous posts that I shared at the beginning of this article. I urge you to «click» also in the link of this post next:

https://hive.blog/hive-195212/@por500bolos/who-the-hell-has-the-keys-of-adm-i-dunno-but-i-reckon-the-witnesses-will-have-to-find-out-and-tell-us-chapter-i

Since in this post I do a complete X-ray. An extensive tomography and an in-depth MRI on what lies inside the bowels of this nefarious account in the Hive blockchain.

Whose only and last relevant post on August 19, 2021 only said this:

Surely now you might be wondering how & why @abit has been such an idiot and asshole in granting the posting key access to the @adm account that he owns to this gang of brainless motherfuckers to downvote everyone with impunity as they please eh?

But, what could you expect from the ethics and integrity of an individual who has only been accused of multiple and repeated frauds solely and exclusively for his own selfish benefit in every blockchain project in which he has participated since the old days of BitShares?

Well, I hope that through this informative and educative post you already know and have a clearer idea about the whole freaking thing. And if you still don't have it completely clear. To do this, you only have to click on each of the links in colored letters that I have left you throughout this post. That's all. ¡Easy-Peasy folks!

Oh! and if you wonder who is really behind the Hivewatchers, Hivewatcher, Spaminator, Steemcleaners and ADM accounts, making everyone's life miserable without justification or excuse of any kind. Then look no further than the account of the biggest asshole and hypocrite of them all. @Guiltyparties who is also at the forefront of the biggest acts of corruption currently going on in the Hive blockchain.

But who desperately tries to hide his filthy presence out of everyone sight behind the retarded spoiled pet and despicable brain-dead corpse of @logic who is the real suckpuppet, only culprit and the one in charge of spreading the downvotes everywhere through the corrupt and illegal accounts already mentioned.

But, is it perhaps that this coward and despicable brain-dead corpse could be more of a fucking useless son of a bitch? When rarely and with great luck I finally in this recent post I managed to obtain an upvote from @leovoter with a value of approximately $15.00 dollars at the time. Then have to come this great son of a bitch with everything he has available at his fingertips to try to bring my author rewards to zero? Yeah, of course he couldn't make it. But his desire was not lacking!

¡Useless Motherfucker!

¿What else could you want to know?

Oh yeah, of course. You would like to know the answers to the questions with which I began this post that have not yet been answered. ¿Huh?

  1. What is their purpose?
  2. What are their intentions?
  3. What is really their true goal?
  4. What are they really looking for?

In front of the indifference of the witnesses, the biggest HP stakeholders in the chain and the programmers, coders and devs within the blockchain who actually refuse to try to counteract, stop and eliminate ipso facto this constant abuse carried out by these motherfuckers. What do you think could be the answers to these questions? ¿Wouldn't you also blame each one of them for this goddamn failure and bloody disaster?

Could it be that they just want you to leave? Drive you away forcefully? Banish you indefinitely off chain so you feel discouraged in this place, quit and stop publishing your revealing, informative, educative and valuable content within the ecosystem? Or are there more nefarious, fraudulent, selfish and self-interested economic reasons that justify their collective biased and greedy behavior and that's why they all turn a blind eye to this evident and shameless ransack carried out by these thugs in the open?

Well MoFos, that's not gonna happen!

We have a loud voice! And we will enforce our voice here, everywhere and wherever it is needed so it be clearly seen and heard on the entire internet and the whole cryptoverse on what's going on in this cesspool if they do not reconsider and take soon the corrective measures.

Now go ahead, inquisitive minds, and try to answer these fucking questions by yourself in your own blog if you still have a spine left. Hopefully we'll see each other in the comments section.

Leave a comment. Share your experiences and feedback. ¡Be part of the conversation!

«««-$-»»»

"Follows, Comments, Rehives & Upvotes will be highly appreciated"

Cranky Gandalf

Cheers!



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Man, I have waited a long time for you to give them sources.
That happened a few weeks before I got signed on as a true belieber.
That fog took a while to clear and when it did, I had to wait to today to get clarity on something that I knew wasn't setting right with the part of the story I witnessed.

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Plenty of pirates in this story.
Let's hope the control freaks among them sell into the rise.
I really didn't become aware of abit and smooth until the whale experiment.
Too bad those days are never to happen again.
Life in the pool would be very different with a 1000mv limit on voting.

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There was a suggestion floating by @demotruk of nullifying stake, I think for the sake of gamifying it we should make it so that for every amount over the limit, all such delegations should penalize bad actors with a sizeable burn, make it inverse and possible to delete all stake by first full powerdown, let the games begin, whale experiments, hopefully the peg holds, and I think to make it even more interesting, pay to post, like blurt, no more spam, and of course keep the downvote for the downsvoters and self voting, and do away with RC all together. O wait, 95% of traffic is for a card game that functions off RC. Content is dead. Long live content!

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I wouldn't favor any proposals that weren't the whales exercising self control.
They should recognize the damage they do, and behave accordingly.

This is why it is important for the crowd to speak up.
That way the greedy among them can be publicly recognized and given the respect they deserve.

It's much better than when we joined?

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This game is built on greed, the only language they understand is loss, the most effective loss is in their stake, forcing them to hold onto stake or lose substantially if they power down is forcing them to dialogue, to make amends for their abuse, if they wish to take their hive out, or their vote mean anything, though I suspect none of the whales will forgo curation rewards for negating these bad faith actors because of the greed.

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They have played according to the rules in place at the time, forcing our will onto them would make us no better than them.
They took advantage, we would be taking advantage.

Better, imo, to shame them.
Then, they may have money, but they get no love.
How will they feel when their rep goes negative?
Less omnipotent, I'm sure.

Greedy people gonna greed, it's just in their nature.
We don't have to surrender the high ground by forcing them.
They know their greed harms the tribe, and by extension, themselves.
Being efficiently greedy is a lot of work.

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This was always a risk, exactly like Justin, with ill gotten gains to be cancelled, on steem it was understood that consensus is king, on hive it was expressed as the very first principle, consensus is king. I would be happy to see what you base your idea on that shaming them is effective when they show no shame by their flagging. There's no fighting abuse to hide behind, it's simply relentless punishment.

It serves for them to control the pool by driving people away, which is something that ought to be punished. If you leverage your stake to punish, others should effortlessly be allowed to punish you, shaming would be nice, if it had any chance of being heard, but I bet they'll hear power down and gtfo much more clearly and since that's their entire thesis it'll be that much more deserving. This was always the issue, without a way to deal with bad faith actors swiftly they brain drain trying to "reach" them, at least if some whale that cared about this could begin an effective end to it with such a tool. It's long past time to do something about it, scrap RC, make transactions cost steem, nullify stake and every % over that effectively diminish the power down potential and burn the difference with no max cap making it into another prisoners dilemma where the consensus can form to banish you or make you into an impotent thorn.

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I am not sure that the theory is true that punishment is the only thing a punisher understands. Since "being punished" seems to be something that every human being deeply abhors. While punishment may be effective in getting someone to shut up or back down, it probably does not achieve an understanding of one's shortcomings. The reactions I recognise to punishment are stubbornness, obstinacy, helplessness, victim mentality.

The question of where a punished person turns to and on whom they take out their punishment, which they perceive as unjust, is rarely asked. A punished person may be chased off the field, but that does not mean he is out of the game of life.

Humility, which is supposed to be a consequence of punishment, is this something that can be observed? The punishers who receive much praise and prize fall for flattery, that is true, they may think it is love.
But because it is not love, and everyone knows that too, the gloating is only a very short-lived moment that glosses over the fact that everyone loses.
Beneath the righteous surface there is another field that knows about the loss.

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Every action has consequences, punishment for punishing people is very poetic and deserved. Considering how many have been chased away by these petty tinpot dictators I wouldn't give them a second thought of "how they respond". I for one believe it will be ineffective and instead turn into another tool used against the community by these faggots, but then there's not gonna be any more allusion that this place is a "community".

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Every action has consequences

True.

I don't think that this place is a community as a whole. But that there are a number of interest groups here who enjoy a certain topic and exchange ideas about it. The garden people, for example, or other subject-specific groups who want to give each other tips for their hobbies or show their latest results. Nothing earth-shattering, but useful, depending on the perspective. Whereas I think that the quality of the contributions overall does not provide enough meat to really be a fund of valuable knowledge transfers. But if you lower your standards, you might find some things, I have received good book tips from some of the users here or sources that I could follow up with interest, but I have to say that the search function on the hive frontend is very poor. What I find most problematic is the seven-day window, as it affects users' habit of not looking at older posts, and monetisation of past publications remains forever impossible, unlike on yt, for example.
I had once suggested re-posting your own posts that you think are of high quality and received too little attention, but there were divided views on this and generally there is too much fear that you would be downvoted because of it.
The whole place suffers from too much superficiality if you ask me. But there's no cure for that anyway, so it's pointless to complain about it.

Anyway, I for one would be bummed if the place would close down. I have published many articles which I consider to be valuable. I often thought of saving them somewhere but never did as they are so many now.
Would you like to see this place shut down?

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No I don't want to see this place shut down, I would like to see this place actually go through another whale experiment. I believe that the major flaw is irrational actors working for immoral purposes being allowed to disturb and defraud the community. These people promote their irrational behaviour in others, and punish rational honest people, and this then drives them away. This has effectively resulted in the less than mediocre content on here. Discussion has never been rewarded on par with posts, so comments aren't encouraged other than to assvaccum the OP, making much of the conversation disgusting to consume and which explains the thorough tongue cleaning these dignified folk generally respond to, further driving the rational honest individual away, and why nobody cares to engage.

I also think this place is not a community which is what these irrational people prefer, you can't have a community of suck ups and so we have a congregation of the most devout brown-nosers that join to pray to the altar of rewards and since these large accounts are incapable of introspection or intellectual honesty they can’t cope with disruptive behaviours from rational and honest people which they will silence by punishment as none of their "friends" or people they support will manifest a moment of honesty or push back are more likely to denounce, deflect or find some insignificant objection to make against the disrupting individual since they lack the same introspective capacity like the large accounts. The message is constantly "quit, leave, if you don't like it why are you here" and soon enough this will have effectively been realized, the apex reached when nobody but Irrational Dolts are left here and I wouldn't be surprised if this place persists solely as a card game.

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I almost missed your answer since your response was not shown in my notifications (or I might have overseen it).

There are many contradictions here at work. I responded in another blog post to the problem in my own language and give you the translation:

The problem here on Hive is that the rules are unclear - not that they ever reach a clarity that satisfies everyone. Some of the big players do it through their community operations (where they upvote their own postings, for example - those who don't know this may not be around long enough or prefer to ignore it for some reason) and make clear announcements about onboarding, for example, and emphasise that spam and plagiarism will be punished, so users are under observation. They also define that there must be a certain variation in the use of images and text, and classify this as "quality". The self-voting of the big community operators, however, is perceived as a double standard, how could it be otherwise?

Other big players say there are no rules on Hive and so everyone votes as they feel like it and what deserves down- or upvotes according to their own subjective opinion.
If the Witnesses were in agreement about the rules, something would be gained in this respect, that is the thinking. But since they are not, it remains as it is.

This lack of clarity in the rules requires the individual to accept operating in an uncertain space and to develop a certain intuition as to whether one's actions are overshooting an (admittedly vague) boundary. I would think that people have this intuition. Those who ignore it are caught cold. Nevertheless, I have a great aversion to "lecturing" in the comment section.

The other problem of the "executive" in this respect is that they punish first and do not first express suspicion of abuse, but establish it directly. It gives me the impression that hivewatchers have too little desire and serious energy to devote themselves to each individual case. In my estimation, there is no professional legal understanding here, as the people don't seem to be trained in such things. In my opinion, a warning would be the better way, i.e. entering into a dialogue with a suspected case of abuse. That they don't do it publicly but on Discord, I can understand in a way, because they have to fear that bystanders will get involved and a huge wave will take place. But that happens anyway - LOL

I state that there is no explicit solution and that one has to live with implicit perceptions.

I agree that in the long run, however, this does more harm than good to the platform as a whole if it gives the impression that, despite contradictory messages among themselves, the Witnesses rarely stand up for an individual case where abuse has been perpetrated on a small fish from within their own Witness ranks. Clearly there has been. I suspect that this happens so little (at least not obviously to me) has the background that the Witnesses fear that a new war will then be sparked among themselves, which will then also cause a bad external image.

There is also the assumption circulating that the big accounts do not have an interest that Hive becomes mainstream for they might fear a hostile takeover and so, as a consequence of that anxiety, keep the place small.

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you mean Splinterlands? Yeah, I personally find that utterly uninteresting.

I would like to see this place actually go through another whale experiment.

What exactly do you mean by that?

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That whales negate other whales votes, but I would like this to be done with delegations that nullify stake and even burn it if for example 2x the stake is delegated so at that point if the penalized tries to power down they forfeit 50% of their power, and preferably at 4x the size of the nullifying delegation vs their stake powering down would be burning 100% of the power.

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Like that one account did with marky? I don't know if he nullified his postings or comments but we saw two wales at war with each other.
What do you mean with "nullify stake" and "burning" it in combination with delegation power?
Can you give me an example which I can understand better?
Like "A" abuses and "B", "C" and "D"-wales come along and nullify "A"s stake, for example.
Would they delegate part of their own stake into a special created account in order to have bigger power to counteract one or more abusive players?

In order to have a case of "abuse", you'd have to have an investigation and the partaking of the parties involved (involvement then is key, for a wale who wants to establish a rule against abuse, must involve himself and have an understanding of legalities). In combination with that, there has to be a certain protocol to which the wales commit themselves.

Like in the customary law of the country, according to which all the considerations and preliminary investigations have to be made before a judgement is reached (the famous trial).

It seems to me that there is not the necessary seriousness on this portal that the actors would really want to put as much work into it as is expected outside the platform, for example.

The witnesses would have to agree on a protocol and procedure and set up the separation of powers similar to the way it is done in democracies. You would need a judge at the end. But he cannot be part of this reward structure and should not have his own account here, in my view. But then the question arises why someone should do that if he is not remunerated for it. He would still have to have a high level of non-participation and not be loyally associated with those who program the code or are big players. I don't see how that could work?

After all, the crucial point is: how exactly and by whom was abuse committed, and what exactly justifies the punishment that goes with it? You need proof, don't you.

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As this post, and many other such instances of punishment ought to come with harsh consequences. We don't need a judge, we need consensus of the large accounts who can intervene stop the faggots. It'd be account x can delegate -y to account z, where y is vests/stake/powered up. It's not a "punishment" as much as it's a reproach, the downside is that they can simply power down and continue their objectives of being faggots, which it ought to come with such consequences that after the second intervention they agreed once more to stop and instead they simply powered down and started with another account then that should be their last time they'll power down.

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There seems to be a consensus among the witnesses that any criticism in the form of a post by a blogger referring to what they see as bad actors and using terms such as pest, parasite, greedy, criminal, duplicitous, etc., are unwelcome to be heard and they either vote such articles down themselves or condone others doing so.

No matter how much factual information the article may contain, it disqualifies itself by containing name-calling.

I observe that criticism, where it is formulated as such, without insulting or denigrating, and the formulator is someone who is either a whale himself or an established blogger with some stake, tends not to be downvoted.
Criticism where it directly attacks actors and makes criminal intent or arbitrariness the strong subject and it comes from a small fish is more likely to be downvoted.

While the whales can use a caustic tone or schoolmaster, the small fish cannot afford to do so because they lose out, since there is no authority to which they can turn.
Since such an authority does not exist (there is no consensus to impose self-regulation on the witnesses) this non-existence of an address gets out of hand in the fact that there is outrage. Which is expressed in articles similar to the one here under which we are commenting.

I would beg to differ. A judge is needed since it can be that in the investigation of a case of suspected abuse of power (stake) there can be conflict within the partaking witness or wale himself and he cannot be objective towards his own interests if they are conflicting him. Often in such a way that it does not even becomes conscious. But before that a power abuser needs to come to a hearing (now, what if he just won't and don't?)

You cannot follow a protocol and be attacker, defender and judge in the same person. You therefore need - once you have reached a consensus as witnesses - an independent body to stand by as arbitrators when cases of abuse of power are brought to their attention. To do this, they must be found, i.e. they must have an address.

I do not see this form of consensus coming.

Your suggestion of punishment or the imposition of impressive financial penalties already exists on the Chain, but "the people" and also the participants themselves are very divided on this.

Ultimately, there seems to be no will to work properly here.

Then you can also start to take the whole thing from the funny side, at least I tell myself in doing so would be better for me.

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A judge is only needed when a crime has been committed, this isn't the issue, there's no crime, even when Justin lost all his steem stake on hive, there wasn't any crime. I call them faggots because that's how they act, that's how they operate, they're not criminals, they are irrational and incompetent, a rational whale should distinguish between the superficial and the factual, but because they are triggered by such descriptions it demonstrates that they lack the ability to do that, and thus they clearly demonstrate that they too are faggots, utterly incompetent and irrational. I don't hold much hope of the suggestions being considered, let alone implemented because it seems the place is captured by the retards, tinpot dictators who police opinions they don't care to understand and ideas they deem dangerous, but regardless I believe the only way forward is by implementing drastic changes and I've little desire to "mock" the retards or to avoid calling them as I see them because I believe it will only go hand in hand with the ass sucking culture they promote. As long as I can yell

Idiots

I'll be content with causing them mental anguish, nothing hurts more than Truth, if what I said wasn't true my words wouldn't elicit their 'ire', exactly like @gtg, monumental faggot triggered by Truth.

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Ah, I see. Thank you for the clarification.
Yes indeed, you don't need to call it a crime and I got confused by the constant chanting down of terms like "abuse" and "rape of the reward pool".

It is true what you say that a rational person need not and does not feel provoked by insults, but since it does happen and rational responses are exceedingly hard to find, the irrational dominates. You have to be very solid in your existence and not mind receiving caustic attributions. To simply put them to one side and look at the facts requires a great deal of composure.

Well, you have your own way of dealing with it and I don't judge you for that. Everyone plays some role in the spheres they move in and I wouldn't know how to assess that in totality. As a rule, I try to work out my own impulses more with myself in silence or publish articles that cannot be forced into a camp in terms of content. I don't care about expressing insults, rather I still have to learn how to deal with them myself and to understand every insult as a chance for my own maturing process. Nothing less is what you expect, is it not.
I understand that you don't feel insulted when someone calls you names? I would call that "one in a million" - it never occurs that you have sensations of revenge or other so called sinful impulses?

The anger you evoke, yes, that is an interesting approach and if I understand you correctly, you are saying that your action is necessary so that it is clear what is hiding under a mask of righteousness. You have chosen the most difficult of roles. I myself do not do that. I would perhaps do it if I felt mature and stable to do so, and I am not. ... Not really sure about that.

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I am not what others think of me, or beholden to their opinion, and if I value their opinions I'll engage in dialogue to flesh out their validity, otherwise I move on.

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I observed that. Flashing out validity is something to go for, yes.
I first disliked your aggressiveness and was hit by the attributes you gave me in our very first encounters. Then I went to your comment section and saw you talking to practicalthought and others and changed my mind about you. I am not saying though that I see you as perfect or always correct in what you express. But I learned something about directness.

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I'm certainly with faults and can err like everyone else, my opinions aren't always for everyone.

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P.S. The problem with your approach - as I see it - is that you yourself are not seen as a rational actor, because you hurl insults and the intention behind them is not clear if people do not "know" you or let themselves be unsettled by you and refuse to get to know you by argument. On the surface, you seem like an angry, lashing out actor who is being accused of irrationality for that very reason.

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This reminds me of "things aren't what they seem, nor are they otherwise". If some see me as lashing out and disregard what I say that's fine, it's not as if they even acknowledge those who don't seem like me, as far as I can tell they are just as disregarded and ignored like the faggot who thought it necessary to explain why people zero out others posts, no matter how you approach them, they will respond in the same dismissive manner.

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Are you saying it doesn't matter if you approach someone rationally or (seemingly) irrationally if he himself is not rational and no matter what you say, it doesn't hit home anyways? So, you can as well cause them pain? ...
Hm ... I am thinking about my own encounters where I thought I argued from a rational point of view and received an irrational response. The way I inwardly dealt with it was that the response might be senseless because the other one doesn't like to give in. But my message nevertheless might stuck and being accepted without the other one letting me know.

the faggot who thought it necessary to explain why people zero out others posts,

Where is this to be found?

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The top coment under this post by Jacob. Yes irrational people aren't receptive to rational messages, they suffer from cognitive dissonance and deflect, avoid, deny, and ultimately ignore them. No amount of facts or logic will get through to the imbecile, no matter how self evident and simple it might be, they only understand asskissery or punishment.

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You deserve the downvotes for your behavior. I hope they decide to mute your content across the Blockchain.

I'm happy to help them downvote you.

Mr -11 rep... Hahahahhahahahaha

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Lolol seethe away retard

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Man, I have waited a long time for you to give them sources.

Even when I've never been an optimist. I still harbored some hope that they would understand the lesson without having to rub their snouts right in his own shit. };)

That happened a few weeks before I got signed on as a true belieber.

Yeah, everyone is a believer until they are not anymore. The "naked truth" is only found when you realy bother to scrutinize deeper in those beliefs.

That fog took a while to clear and when it did, I had to wait to today to get clarity on something that I knew wasn't setting right with the part of the story I witnessed

Well, then I'm glad this post helped somehow to blow away that fog to show that a radiant clean bluesky exists beyond that fog if only more people dare to blow stronger their truths with no fear and without any kind of conformism.

Plenty of pirates in this story.

Haha well, that now already sounds like some sort of euphemism. :D

Let's hope the control freaks among them sell into the rise.

If anything...

I really didn't become aware of abit and smooth until the whale experiment.

Well, they both have really made a great effort to keep a low profile on these "social networks" on the blockchain because of the long straw tail that accompanies them throughout their history in the crypto world. But after the experiment with the SPS+EIP and the free downvotes, their greed was exacerbated and they couldn't help but expose themselves to a little more public scrutiny.

Too bad those days are never to happen again.

Well, now I think you'll have to develop that idea a little better. Because I didn't really understand what you mean with that statement. LoL

Life in the pool would be very different with a 1000mv limit on voting.

Yeah, a 1000mv limit on voting would be enough to make everyone "happy". Isn't it?

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Too bad those days are never to happen again.

The days of an 800mv voting limit being forced onto the pool.

would be enough to make everyone "happy".

Not happy, just less disadvantaged by early adopting ninjamine beneficiaries.

I don't care if one person holds 35% of all the hive, I only ask that they not starve out the newbs by taking all they can from the pool.

Now, any investor that can math won't buy into a distribution where one person can dump the entire group endeavor, but since it is unlikely for me to win the lottery, and spend it all on hivepower, I don't care that the coin is as centralized as it is.
The inflation will spread out the power over time.
I'd just like that to happen before I have to go push up daisies.

But after the experiment with the SPS+EIP and the free downvotes,

Was it hf21 that imposed the poor tax?
Man, I wish I had clued into that sooner.
A 50% tax on poor people was some bs.

Sadly, those same people still hold the majority of power.
They still enjoy the hero worship that dependents often convey.
As the truth comes out it can only get better for the rest of us.

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"...are there more nefarious, fraudulent, selfish and self-interested economic reasons that justify their collective biased and greedy behavior and that's why they all turn a blind eye to this evident and shameless ransack carried out by these thugs in the open?"

Yes, there is. Steem showed why. If the little pond ruled by these big fish is noticed by real sharks, all it takes it money, of which there is plenty, to take it over from our oligarchy. They keep it small, and they do that by driving away heads that stick up out of the pool. Like you.

Thanks!

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Obviously they would want the demand to increase, too bad they're retarded scumbags.

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Please tell me more @baah!

We all here know that you know a lot more about this issue. };)

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It's fairly ;) simple..

The more people believe in hive, the more people invest in it.

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Ah yeah, beliefs. Like the belief in the existence of an always omniscient, omnipotent and benevolent God permanently obliging of our well-being and happiness.

Hey! such as it appears in the first image of this post. Right?

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Exactly, like faith, it took just one crucifixion to cement a following to this day, he has risen, because had he not, nobody would believe in him.

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Thanks mate! I absolutely agree with everything you have said.

Which certainly fully answers all four questions in a row.

Although what really surprises me at this point in my life. It is not just the increase of selfish, indifferent and greedy people in this world. But the absurd exponential increase of docile and cowardly people incapable of raising their voices and denouncing injustices and what is wrong in this world publicly and openly. With the consequent further increase and proliferation of an unbearable amount of asskissers, brown-nosers and boot-lickers everywhere.

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There are chattel because we've been domesticated by cats. However, there are overlords behind the cats, lurking in the shadows. Toxoplasma gondii secretly rules the world.

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Toxoplasma gondii secretly rules the world.

Hahahaha yeah. Funny you mention Toxoplasma gondii in this issue. :)

Since this reminds me of an old post that I wrote a long time ago on steemit for Comedy Open Mic about the curious behavior that I was observing in some influential individuals within the ecosystem.

Where I was basically trying to warn to these opulent cats about how their victims could easily do some sort of "reverse engineering" to their viruses so the effects fireback. :D

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Fuckery.
Utter, complete, fuckery.
Every once in awhile I come across a post with the broken heart and because I'm still just learning about the blood bath carnage wasteland of fuckery bots, I used to wince.

Now, I'm seething.
Thank you for the education and sources.

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That's right Ma'Lady. Utter and complete fuckery.

I'm still just learning about the blood bath carnage wasteland of fuckery bots, I used to wince.

Yeah, at first just a wince was the healthiest option to maintain our sanity. ;)

Now, I'm seething.

How not being seething? Given the unstoppable increase of such ongoing fuckery?

Thank you for the education and sources.

A great pleasure to be of any help. };)

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Valid reasons to zero rewards:

  1. Plagiarism
  2. Spam
  3. Impersonation
  4. Malicious content, e.g. revenge porn

None of these can use reputation or Hive Power as a metric for innocence.

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Valid reasons to zero rewards:

Only, solely, singly and exclusively these. No more, no less. Any attempt to try to silence and zeroing any content that does not fall into those four categories that you have mentioned in addition to phishing and scams. Must be rejected, stopped, reprimanded, punished, execrated, expelled and eliminated immediately.

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What is their purpose?
What are their intentions?
What is really their true goal?
What are they really looking for?

Spam and a whole lot of stuff are valid reasons!

That's what you wanted to add to the conversation, to "contribute", to point out..



that..




detail..

Thanks for the revelation, I'm certain nobody was confused or ignorant about that seeing that the topic has nothing to do with what you said.

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Those analysis links are good to see. Are there any programmable feed sites? I'd love to see what the trending feed would look like without whale votes, or without certain whale votes. I stopped looking at it when I realized it was censored without merit.

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Are there any programmable feed sites?

Erm, I'm not sure if I understand you. What do you mean with programmable feed sites?

I'd love to see what the trending feed would look like without whale votes, or without certain whale votes.

Oh yeah, I suspect many would love to see that also. But don't worry, that very soon I will write a post that can give you an accurate idea about it. Stay tuned!

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