India or Bharata, the ongoing debate!

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If you are living in India or follow Indian news or politics then you must be aware of this debate that sparked around a week ago. What's the debate all about? Well, there was a G20 meeting in New Delhi where many country heads were present and their invitation said "From President of Bharat" Instead of the usual "From President of India", both of which are the names of our country. And during the meeting, Prime Minister Narender Modi also used the placard which said Bharata instead of India.

The word "India" has little to no cultural roots and was the name adopted by European colonizers which kind of makes some people mad, especially when we are actively trying to shed the signs of the cruel and barbaric history of colonisation. India is the name we adopted during the formation of the constitution too.

But the constitution uses the other name "Bharata" in Article 1 itself,

Article 1 of the Constitution says that

India, that is Bharata, shall be a union of states and the territory of India consists of that of the states...

Bharata Word Origin

The word "Bharat/Bharata" has some deep cultural and socio-cultural roots and its mention can be found in historical epics like Mahabharata.

It is mentioned in an old religious text, Vishnu Purana.

The country that lies north of the ocean, and south of the snowy mountains, is called Bhárata, for there dwelt the descendants of Bharata.

And these texts are thousands of years old and are still prevalent and living in the country's heart.

There is a special parliamentary session called by the present government from the 18th Sep and one of the most anticipated bill/legislation is this name change from India to Bharata.

Based on the track record of the present government where they are actively looking at removing any signs of the colonial past and at the same time boosting and showcasing the cultural might of the country, a name change is not so highly unlikely.

What do you think? Should India be renamed Bharata or is it bad for the country and should remain the same?

There are some countries that change their names and it is not some unprecendanted thing that will open some kind of Pandora's box but doing it in a big country like India after the name is imprinted on the whole world is not going to be easy.

What do I think? I love the idea, I would love to see a world where names have some meanings and I don't see any meaning in the word India. But at the same time, it is not going to be easy. I have a list of things that are far more important than this name change. For example, how about fixing the education system just for a change? We are just fed up with this rot learning.

But don't get me wrong, I am somewhat satisfied with what they are doing in bringing back the glorious past of Bharata's civilization. We got to know from the foreign minister that India is restoring the Ankor Wat in Cambodia, which is the largest religious site in the world. A temple that shows the influence of Indian culture in those times and how far it was spread. I am not a religious person but being proud of your heritage and culture is a different thing for me. Most of those temples are the storehouse of so much knowledge and traditions that they need some protection much like other historical monuments of cultural importance.

I will be keenly looking at the special parliamentary session to see what we have in store for us. Maybe it is a good time for @indiaunited to grab @bharataunited and @bharata usernames too 😉 (@bhattg lelo bhai abhi toh available hai isse phle koi or le jae)

Let me know what's your take on this anticipated name change from India to Bharata.

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Wah kya baat hai bhai, bahut he badiya. Ab samay aara hai sab kuch badalne ka. Bharata bahut he badiya rehega bhai. Or baat rahe education system ke waha to kafe saal lag jayenge. 🙂. Par dhere dhere sab hoga, jaha caah hai waha rah hai 😬

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I feel "bharata" is the best name and in my case I know India as Bharata.
I am a non Indiana. I just shared my opinion 🙂.

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Don't call yourself non Indian...you are one of us... we are just divide by a made up line...

the defination I gave above or the word Bharata fits you too so you are a Bharatiya as well. 🤗

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!PIZZA

And thanks for your valuable feedback. Much appreciated!

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Don't call yourself non Indian...you are one of us... we are just divide by a made up line...

That's also true and I can feel that our thoughts are almost very common and match with each other. When it's about Bharata then we are the same because the line just gave us a new name not changed our feeling.

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I think it’s a great thing, as long as it’s not referring to a time of greater cruelty or dominion, I think the country’s people can decide to choose a name that fits them better, whether that’s an older name or a new one. I hope the name change doesn’t favor one tribe or religion more than others, this could create problems

But if the people want it and it doesn’t cause great anger within the country, just don’t expect the rest of the world to adapt immediately, it will only cause unnecessary tension, so I hope the Bharatans will be patient with the world. Maybe start by changing the name officially and asking people and companies to start using the name but accepting the old name as well for a generation or two.

It will probably take a few years for me to get used to. If i tell someone about my Bharatan friends theyll be confused until they start hearing this name elsewhere, so a good place to start is a movement to start spreading awareness of the name

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Agree with you on this... When this debate broke out so many Indians Bharatiyas/Bharatians went on social media in favor of this expected change...they been expecting it for long time. If we decide to go on changing the name then yes, it would be a long period before everyone is in sync with this change.

Some people still think Indians are the Native American people only...lol 🤪

Good to hear about your thoughts on this matter.

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Hello prav bro

If BJP remains in power, changing name of India to Bharat will be an easy task!

In the summit they talked about Crypto currency. Let's hope now things about get easier now.😄

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Yeah, but is no more about a political party. People wants the change now and seems to be ready for it.

Reagarding crypto, I think they said we need a global crypto regulation which they have been saying for years no... only talks no work on that aspect. 😅

!LUV

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Well, I still don't understand the impact of this name change.

Because there are a lot of other issues which are more important than this name change in the country.

But as you are saying that this word "India" was chosen by British then I think it would be better to change it. Because word Bharat originated from Sanskrit (I think) has some solid meaning and also on the name of king Bharata or bharat.

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There are a lot of important issues but they will always be there no matter what... Name change is not important is more important is to get freedom from the colonial baggage that we are still carrying to this day.

The impact would be huge in my opinion, a statement that Bharata is regaining its former glory. And this name change is not just an isolated event, there have been more such events which made us proud of our heritage and culture. (Not talking about religion)

Btw, some people questions why send a probe to the moon while there are a lot more things to be fixed in the country...but these events are not exclusive that one takes place at the cost of another. Everything has its importance in their place. And some things unite country much more than other.

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Ah,
This type of thinking is needed in every individual of the country. Only then, I think it would be possible to get freedom of that colonial baggage you are talking about.

Otherwise people are happy the way they are living and won't pay any concern whatever the name of the country is(my opinion). Because em not a native resident.

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Obviously, I have one or two thoughts at this point that some may approach very sensitively, but I think the name of a country should be closest to the official records and language of that country. Especially if it carries meanings that may not be pleasant in the language used by the "naming" group. And unfortunately they are very prone to this.

For example, "Bharata" has been reflected in Turkish and has given its name to a topic related to Bharata. In the period when the Silk, Spice and King's routes were actively used, the mother tongue of those who provided access to the languages shaped the nomenclature. Such as "Baharat" which means "spice". It's really annoying.

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So "Bharata" translates to "spice" in turkish!? Hmm...interesting... that has to be because of Indias dominance in spice industry. Bharata is a very old word, used in some of the oldest texts in our country.

At least it is better than a meaningless word...lol

!LUV

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Yes, it is a subject that has taken root in present-day Turkiye, which is a kind of distribution point of the Spice Road. And if I remember correctly, we bought many spices from Bharata, still using them. In fact, the whole world did.

Exactly... I hope this won't be like this from now on.

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Well-written article. This is not going to be an easy change and there would even be many political parties who might oppose this change.

Thanks for your suggestion. I'm not sure if there will be a need for us to change the name of our community on Hive. But maybe these accounts can be useful later. So @indiaunited has now claimed @bharata @bharatam @bharatunited @bharatamunited

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This is good Bala.. GLad you claimed these accounts already for future if needed.

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ye hue na baat bade bhai 😍

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सर आपको Bharat करना चाहिए लोक, Bharata तो अंग्रेजी ज़ुबान के लोग प्रोनाउंस करते हैं।

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In Hindi it is pronounced as Bharat. But in most of the older languages and Sanskrit, it is Bharatam. And the word Bharata is mostly a synonym of the word Indian I guess.

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उत्तर में हम लोग नाम का उच्चारण अधूरा करते हैं, जैसे राम में र के पीछे आ की मात्रा लगी है उसी तरह म को बोलते समय सिर्फ म बोलते हैं उसके पीछे लगे अ को कभी नहीं बोलते।

बोलने के इस अधूरेपन को दक्षिण भारत ने पूरा किया...वहां लोग वाक्य या शब्द को उसके अंत मे अ लगाकर पूरा करते हैं, जैसे अरुण को अरुणा बोलकर, फ़ाइल को फ़ाइला बोलकर।

विदेशी विसर्ग नहीं बोल पाये इसलिए उन्होंने विसर्ग को बोलने के लिए खासकर पुर्लिंग के बोध के लिए अतिरिक्त अ का इस्तेमाल किया।

यह भाषा और बोली का टकराव हर भाषा मे सदियों से चलता आ रहा है।

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संविधान के अनुच्छेद 01 के अनुसार इंग्लिश भाषा मे यह India है और हिंदी भाषा मे भारत। आपने हमारे देश की स्पेलिंग ही ठीक नहीं लिखी...यह Bharat है न कि Bharata।

हमारे सविधान में जोकि हिंदी भाषा मे है में 900 से ज्यादा बार Bharat शब्द का इस्तेमाल हुआ है और इंग्लिश में 900 से ज्यादा बार भारत लिखा गया है।

सविधान लिखते समय ही यह तय हुआ था कि जब भी इंग्लिश में हमारे देश का नाम लिखा जाएगा तब India लिखा जाएगा और हिंदी में हमेशा Bharat ही होगा। इसलिए सभी सरकारी संस्थाओं में India और भारत का इस्तेमाल किया है।

हमारी वर्तमान सरकार ने भी कई मुहिम चलाई हैं इस ओर जैसेकि
खेलो India
फिट इंडिया
Make in India
और Digital India।

नाम बदलने के लिए सिर्फ दो ही बार पीआईएल डाली गई है सुप्रीम कोर्ट में। पहले 2016 में और दूसरी 2020 में...और दोनों ही बार सुप्रीम कोर्ट ने इस पीआईएल को यह कहकर खारिज कर दिया कि नाम पहले से ही Bharat है...प्रत्येक नागरिक हमारे देश के नाम को india या भारत कहकर संबोधित कर सकता है।

सविधान में या किसी अन्य denote दस्तावेज में कहीं यह नहीं लिखा कि India अंग्रेजों के द्वारा दिया गया नाम है। जबकि इंडस सभ्यता से प्रभावित हमारे देश का नाम अन्य देशों के लेखकों ने अपनी किताबों में india ही लिखा है और यह दस्तावेज सिकन्दर के आक्रमण से पहले के हैं। और इंडस नदी के कारण ही देश का अन्य नाम हिंदुस्तान भी पड़ा।

खैर यह मेरा व्यक्तिगत मत है, वैसे मुझे नाम भारत पसन्द है क्योंकि यह राजा भरत की याद दिलाता है जोकि राजा अशोक से पहले हुए चक्रवर्ती सम्राट थे जिनका पताका समस्त भारत समेत गंधार और चीन तक लहराता था।

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Bhai Bharata maine Hindi word nhi sankrit work likha hai...Jaise ki Himalaya sankrit sabd hai or uska hindi sabd Himalay hai...lekin dono hi chlte hai...agar aap mera post pdte toh vahan pr maine dono hi Bharat or Bharata ka use kiya hai. Or ye maine jaanbhuj kr kiya hai taaki logon ko na lge ki ye sirf Hindi word hi hai.

India angrejo k dwara nhi bhi ho lekin unhone isko global kiya or yhi maana jaega ki unke dwara hi hai...jaise ki hame pta tha ki Earth sun k around revolve krti hai lekin credit us western scientist ko jaata hai jisne isse sbse phle puri duniya main failaya... Or doosri baat India naam kabhi bhi hamne khud ko nhi diya or ek deah k pass pura hak hona chahiye ki vo apna naam apne culture se related rakhe.

Main politics main pdta nhi lekin meri ye ichha kaafi saalo se thi ki isme parivartan aana chahiye or doosra Sankrit ko bhi jyada use kiya jaana chahiye.

Bharat abhi tak sirf ek ceremonial naam hi bnkr reh gya hai usko main stream krna chahiye

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संस्कृत भाषा मे पुर्लिंग का बोध कराने के लिए विसर्ग का इस्तेमाल किया जाता है, विसर्ग के अनुसार हम सदैव भारत को भारत:, राम को राम:, हिमालय को हिमालय:, प्रवेश को प्रवेश: लिखा जाता है।

खैर बिना किसी शाब्दिक मतभेद के इसे भारत करना चाहिए जिसके समर्थन मैं स्वयं करता हूँ। सदैव भारतीय होने पर गर्व रहेगा।

और मैं आशा करूँगा कि संस्कृत या हिंदी को हमारे देश की राष्ट्रीय भाषा भी जल्द घोषित किया जाए, साथ ही इसको हमारी आधिकारिक भाषा भी घोषित किया जाए ताकि हमारे denotes ठीक हो सके और हमारे कार्य शैली में विस्तार और विकास हो।

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Hi Pravesh - I've read about this debate a little bit in the news recently, and, although I don't have a horse in this race, being an American, I agree that as the name "India" has no relation to the history of your country, changing it to something that is both culturally appropriate and significant to the people of your country is a good thing.

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Hi, Jack...good to hear the debate reached you too. There is a special parliamentary session starting today...maybe we will get some official confirmation. Even if we don't what I see on social media is that people are ready for this change. Maybe it happens in the next week or the next year or decade. The change seems inevitable to be.

!PIZZA
!LUV

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right on! One of my go-workers is from, should I say Bharata, or still use India, any rate, your neck of the woods, and he sounds like he favors the change. Fingers crossed that it will be sooner than later.

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