What does it feel like to be autistic?

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Normal. I guess?

I mean, how does it feel being neurotypical? Probably normal, right? Right!

I was lucky (or maybe not so lucky) as a young boy; I was grabbed from a young age and thrust into sports. I can remember being manhandled by my Grandad down to the local park with a golf ball and a stick. It felt weird what he was trying to teach me to do. I was there without my say so and here was one of my father-figure’s pushing a forty year old golf club in my face and shouting at me, “just bloody give it a swing, give it a try”

I didn’t care, I just wanted to go back and play with my bike and my tractor – stupid wooden straight pointy stick-thing. What use is that anyway? I would give it a swing, take a big massive clump of dirt with me and scream at him,

“There?! You happy!”

I’m 42 now, back then I was about five and just starting primary school so you bet I went back home with a red-hot bottom. My first brush with golf wasn’t a good one, my memories are faded but I do remember the very first time we attempted it I was not in the mood and I ended up getting the slipper.

It was the same with football. I can remember my Grandad playing football with me for long hours out in the fields until it got dark. I had a rocket right foot. I can remember kids picking me in school for football purely for the strength in that right foot. If you can compare it to anything it would be Fulton from D1

That of course phased out in High School as I began getting interested in being a goalie. It’s a long story, and perhaps one for another day. Main takeaway from this is that I was brought up to love sports and I really did love sports. Sometimes you would see me on the golf course three times a day in the summer holidays practising. Morning, noon and night before the dark comes in.

I wasn’t your typical Autistic kid. My love for tech, games and sci-fi? Yes, that is actually really strong too — I grew up loving computers and Star Trek but at the time it was my dirty secret; something I didn’t want the world to know — because popular kids didn’t do that. It’s only what the weird stupid kids that try to get A’s in class do.

It was crazy looking back because I could have just not given a crap and enjoyed what I enjoyed but it seemed growing up my love for sports and popularity were in direct conflict with my love for hyper geeky stuff.

A popular autistic kid? Nay? I hear you say? Yeah, truth be told I wasn’t really popular at all. My friends would only hang with me outside of school because being near me IN school was sometimes all a bit too insufferable. I’d often get jibed by one of the big fat girls that I was a, “Norman nae pals” – In Scottish that technically means that I was known for having no friends, and in school that was a big insult. Having no friends in school was sort of like you were unlikeable, a loner, a loser.

It was quite the mishmash of feelings. On one hand I desperately tried to be the cool kid that played sports and hung with all the hyper masculine guys, and on the other hand I desperately wanted to sit and play the computer all day.

Sadly, rather than succumb to my needs and wants I gave into my lust for popularity and power which in the end just resulted in me pissing off most people because in reality I was being false. It really wasn’t who I wanted to be. I wanted to be head deep doing geeky stuff like coding my own program or starting my own tech business.

Trying to understand people was a funny one too. Why did people do what they do? It made no sense. I’ll be honest, it still makes no sense. But I’ve elevated my worldview to live and let live — if people are doing it then it must make sense to them and that’s alright.

Don’t even get me started on relationships. I can remember thinking that women were almost super human as to how they couldn’t be nervous on a date and it was almost inconceivable that I even managed to get on dates. It wasn’t until I met my wife and I could visibly tell that she was nervous too — that I realised most women are ultra good at masking and throwing us off scent.

I used to blame my dad for all this but in reality I’m not so sure now. I mean it hurts that he wasn’t there but a lot of what I went through I see my son go through it all himself. The only saving grace is that I really drummed it into him that he should absolutely do what he likes and he should not pay attention to what anyone else thinks. So right now he’s in the chess club and doing programming as an extra curricular activity — good for him I’d say.

It was my son that made me realise I definitely had autism. I wouldn’t have known beforehand. I mean we suspected but I wouldn’t have known for sure. It is something that’s been suggested to me many times before.

That being said it’s never been a hindrance to me. One lady on hive @traciyork (thank you) suggested that I was an overachiever in that whatever’s put in front of me I try my damndest to make it work.

I used to own a super popular blog at one point which started off as just a few random thoughts but merged into something that attracted over 30,000 visits per month. Few people ever get to that stage. Of course it was suggested that I got there because of my white privilege but in reality it’s because a lot of thought and effort goes into my work — if you want to coast at life then you’ll never be successful with money. Perhaps happy? Maybe, but never successful. The successful route is the ultra hard path. It’s never easy, and it requires lots of sacrifice.

If you catch it early enough (like I did) then you can turn everything that you are into a positive. Autistic people (including me) tend to have ultra focus, repeat things that they enjoy, and tend to overly indulge in their interests. That’s why I would say there are a high percentage of autists in ultra focused skills — like Brain Surgery for example.

That’s not to say that everyone is like this and you’re thinking of wanting to give me my laser and scalpel and send me off to recreate life altering brain surgery, no. It’s all about focus; see where it is and encourage it. My kid wants to be a game designer and a Youtuber. You ever seen the views some of those game youtubers get? Big money. If you didn’t know, views = money.

If you had asked me this perhaps 20 years ago I would say life sucks and the only good thing is the beer, spirits, the drugs, and the ladies. Luckily twenty years later and I’ve found passions I never knew I had and really quite enjoy life. It’s why I’m still writing. I’m financially comfortable now so I’m going back to what I love. I also game lots to the annoyance of my wife. She is to GTA 5 as my friend Ben is to Facebook chat. I’ll give you a hint, it’s not a positive!

But like I say. A lot of people walk around thinking high functioning Autism is a bad thing, it’s not. If you aim your focus right and dial down the thirst for hedonism, because boy do we get a little side-tracked when we discover hedony, the exploration for pleasure is high with us autists — especially when we spend our childhood being made to feel like we aren’t anything special.

When we find that glass of vodka that finally makes us feel special? You bet we’re climbing those highs.

So whatever the case it feels normal being Autistic. It’s always been for me anyway. It perhaps even gives me an edge over life? Because when you are scrolling Facebook endlessly I am indulging my interests, learning new things, and taking pleasure out of what I do, rather than blaming the world for everything that’s not good.

I jest of course but it would be really nice if we began to all take a good cold hard look at ourselves and aim to improve that which we don’t like!

Peace out folks 🙂

Started a new wp blog with the intent of pushing people over to hive. Check it out :) (my own work) https://learnisart.com/what-does-it-feel-like-to-be-autistic/



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What a wonderful and positive post about Autism. My wife is a Senior OT specialising in autism in very young children and early intervention and they are a joy. Early intervention is paramount, not to 'fix' them but to develop coping mechanisms and understanding of their situations, social function is very important, and also to aid other related issues such as LD, cognitive and motor functions.

Finally, you can sort of blame your Dad as your son can blame you as autism has been shown anecdotally and clinically to be passed down through the male line, often becoming more pronounced with each generation.

Parents understanding and acceptance is one of the biggest issues we face and the therapies always include helping parents to understand. I'd guess that in your day, it was confusing and you had to adapt and develop your own systems for getting through life. It's hard.

Best post I've read all week. Best wishes to you and your family fella. Looks like you have it all sussed out. Brilliant :-)

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Thank you! I get a lot of pleasure out of writing as you can probably tell haha. I will say it's one of my "indulgencies."

Yeah, we worked out that my dad was an undiagnosed autist -- he died of liver failure. His pleasures were vodka and women. That being said for most of his adult life he worked an incredibly hard and high powered six figure job.

I was lucky. My wife is a school teacher and she could spot it right off. We got our son diagnosed when he was 3, and I've learned a lot through watching him.

The relationship I have with my son is a really deep connection - my wife used to dump him on my lap when he was crying and would leave me alone with him to comfort him, she almost forced the connection at an early age. But I can understand through my early thoughts and feelings of how parental acceptance can often be hard!

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Great post, love the personal insight into your life! Norman, oh that reminded me of the school days, you really are Scottish! I feel like I had a similar experience growing up, doing sports for the sake of doing sports, really wanting to spend more time learning! I wish the schools were as focused on coding/tech back when I was there, maybe would have learned to code instead of learning to bullshit my way through the day!

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Yup. We learned to code on apple macs. But boy was our teacher shit lol

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Yeah, I went to a small primary school, we were lucky to have computers. The teachers used to ask me how to fix the, needless to say, we didn't learn much about computers at the time!

High school I pushed towards the Sports "cool kid" side of things, should have stuck my head where it belonged, behind a computer lol

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you must be younger than me. We had 1 computer for the whole school haha

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Oh hello you

Fellow traveler and kindred. I "see" you!

I came to find you to say thank you 🙏

But, of course, I was dead curious to know who you are so I read your post. Happy to meet you. Well done on your personal journey of success!

And more... to have the courage to share it. It's service you know. People need to hear things like this. Or read them!

I then went to visit your blog. It's down at the moment. Looks like a problem with the DNS - you can let your hosting provider know they may sort it out. Or I'd be more than happy to fix it for you. Pro bono. You're of the humans that could accept the offer, if it helps you in some way... gracefully and with simplicity and ease.

Stay you!

And thank you. Again :)

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Hey!! Yes, I realised I had forgotten to give out rewards last week so I went ahead doing that!

Weird that it's down, it works for me. What country are you in? I'll check that my hosting doesn't restrict any countries. I'm actually quite savvy with the web. Or wait, are you talking about therelationshipblogger.com? I had to give up that one. I grew it so big, had columns on big magazines and all sorts.

Sadly, I gave that one up. I had to. My circle started to talk about stuff that I just didn't believe in. My editors would throw stuff back at me telling me that I was, "Speaking from a place of privilege," and whilst privilege is a concept that I understand it automatically assumes and applies motivation to myself without investigation. Like so:

"You can't write about the male experience speaking to females because you are privileged" - which does a few things. It assumes my intention, it also assumes my background, and it assumes my life experience without ever asking me a single question.

They were quite steadfast on this, and being a white male it got me less and less gigs, and even more importantly, gigs that I was willing to take part in. So I gave up, I didn't want any part in a movement that causes way more harm than it does good. Maybe I'll write about that one day. The blog is no longer there. I let the due date slide and fully moved to hive.

Hive has been good to me though. I've built up quite a following, and have been more successful on here than any other place I've been in my life. I love that it's a big melting pot of cultures, skills, and backgrounds. It's quite amazing.

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Well thank you for the reward! :D

therelationshipblogger.com - yeah, this one. It's still on your profile here on Hive.

I relate. Mainstream doesn't want to have a conversation. It's a political game, mostly. And the money. Of course. We wouldn't want to ruffle any feathers and have sales decline. Because what about advertising? And our vacation homes? Not much journalism there, then. Not much truth. Not anymore. (#freejulianassange while we're at it)

I'm interested to hear a male perspective. F*ck knows you guys haven't been allowed to have your say. At all! 🙄

I am a privileged white female. And learning about it at last. We should compare notes. 👍

Yes there is a ton of male privilege. And I blame the mothers, quite frankly. There is some female privilege making the rounds as well.

How do we progress, or even things out, if we don't share our war wounds and have a tolerant conversation. This is exactly what's going horribly wrong in society. Everyone is too scared to say boo.

Okay. Glad I found you. Even more glad I was rewarded 'cause I need that around now. 😁 Thank you again.

Yeah - I spoke a lot about social injustice and many ism on mainstream. And have also found Hive far more open-minded, educated, courageous and cool to engage on. I'm not going back!

See you around. Enjoy the weekend. 🌸

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As soon as Politics became infused with social justice it was game over. Truth be told I'm glad now I got out as early as I did because god knows where we'd be now.

I talk about this a lot but I worked in the Charity sector for almost 20 years. Started off as a client and worked my way up to Project Manager. There are many areas of charity, mine was in work rehabilitation and mental health. Mainly those that were down on their luck and needed some insight, or people that had come out of hospital and needed re-integration at the workplace.

We helped thousands of people.

Thankless it was, but the reward was seeing the good work we had done applied to people. We didn't need a thank you, we could already see our help working in the way they lived their lives. It was an amazing job. But, jobs like these need funding and donations, and well, it all dried out when money tightened up.

I'm not a believer in privilege in the way it's talked about now. I've seen too much stuff. Like you can't automatically apply group characteristics to a whole subset of people.

Take me as a young man. Grew up in a 99.99% white neighbourhood. Mostly dirt poor and factory and shop workers. Did we get stopped by the police just for being there? Course we did - most of our area were on drugs and a high percentage of the youth were up to no good so we were stopped and cautioned all the time. Didn't matter if we were good boys. We were also followed and eyed in the shops!

I was one of the 0.02% of my area that transcended the expectations for my social class.

All through my working life I've also always been outnumbered by women by a factor of at least 10. So every 10 women in the workplace to one me -- so this whole men have it better and women have it worse, it's something I can't agree on because of what I've witnesses. We all have our struggles. I like to think we complete each other rather than work against each other.

Men go mostly unnoticed, that's why we seem loud and annoying. By 20 we've realised if we aren't in the faces of everyone then we'll just disappear. Quite different for women, there are many eyes on them! Lots of people to talk to.

I learned this myself. Even as an attractive man in my 20's, if I wasn't going to leap in there and get talking to people I was just going to disappear - so it may seem like we are loud, but we just want to be noticed lol

That being said, for what we lack in, women sure make up for. I'm a selfish autist that can't see past my nose. My wife is a selfless empath with great skills at reading between the lines. On the other hand those skills of mine make me a great worker in bringing home the bacon, and she doesn't need to work another day in her life.

It's the circle of life really.

So I'm still a social justice warrior, just not as what it is today. Today social justice is an ideal -- the goals live in fantasy. I've heard so many people say, "if we equalise men and women, or black and white"

We can't. What will you do with the exceptionally attractive women, and the women that are unattractive? How will you equalise that? And the short and tall men? How will you equalise them? These are inherently born-with traits that you can't do anything with - and you do get treated on with appearance, that's for sure.

I'd rather work at helping people deal with their negative attributes and get them thinking about how they can use them to their advantage, which is usually something I'm quite good at!

I'm more of a work with the world than change existing paradigms and culture and biology that has existed for a millennia! lol

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What a marvelous comment and most excellent thoughts.

Thanks for taking the time to share them.

I hear you. In full. And bravo. 👏🏻

You've given me much to consider. And quite a lot of relief and peace with this share!

I'm going to go over it a few times. Let it simmer. Maybe revert and ask questions or maybe just accept that some things probably can't be changed and get on with being me.

Perhaps that's how things do change best.

Hypothesis and ideals maybe aren't as relevant in the world we live in anymore.

It's time for action.

Simplest to simply walk the walk then. 👍🏼

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My thought is

Equal isn't equal as in same same for everyone.

Equal is pro rata taking into account the challenges of each sector and facilitating equal treatment and opportunity accordingly

If that's even possible with how complicated this can become

But rest now. And now I've also broken my glasses. *sigh

Thanks for sharing

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So... I would love to have more of a convo about this and hear more of your take on it, if you're open to that.

If not happy to leave things here as am also paddling madly and busy trying to finish off projects and now a bit of work that came in as well.

My questions would be:

  1. Do you have a daughter

  2. If you could drop a list of female privilege in the comments here (this is a mouthy post about male privilege so brace yourself :D I'm actually keen to learn more as I only learned about this stuff a few years ago if you can believe that. I guess that's white female privilege right there! 😆)

https://peakd.com/hive-124452/@nickydee/my-strange-addiction-loh-103#comments

Would love to hear your thoughts!

Happy Monday! 🌸 (bleugh)

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I'm always open to these discussions. I don't see women as my enemy, I love women lol.

Okay, so now I have a few questions for you before I answer yours.

  1. What is your relationship like with your Father? Or, if none, what was your relationship like with the leading men in your life?
  2. Do you have a son?

Female privileges? Hmm. Let me think of a few. I'll do this speaking as if I am a woman:

  1. I can shout Rape and people will take me seriously
  2. I can get into clubs and bars for free
  3. Men rush around to help me when I'm in distress
  4. When I'm in distress I'm (usually) taken way more seriously than my male counterparts.
  5. I can have sex with someone, get pregnant, and then the sole decision on whether it lives or dies rests on my shoulders.
  6. I can also choose to fully birth number 5, and regardless of how the man feels about it, make him financially responsible for 18 years.
  7. I can terminate number 5, regardless of what the male chooses.
  8. People take violence against my gender WAY more seriously than any other - ie Where are the battered men shelters? Why aren't we talking about men are just as scared to go out in the dark at night as women?
  9. Violence against men charities don't exist, even although violence against men is way higher, and partner-relationship violence between genders is in similar numbers.
  10. Child rape in schools is taken far more seriously when the victim is my gender, rather than a male counterpart, and the person that did the crime given way more serious jail time if he is a man.
  11. People consider my problems, and is largely documented in schools, colleges, universities and in the private sector. I couldn't list many problems men have because we don't talk or consider it much - men don't have problems anyway? Do they?

Just a few I can think of off the top of my head and what I've witnessed over my 42 years of life. But like I say I'm a realist and I can probably list just as much privileges men have over women if you asked me -- if not more because I am a man and I have acute experience over my advantages, disadvantages because we all have them!

My thoughts of your post is this: There's a war going on alright, but it's not outside, it seems to be from the inside, hence my question on the leading men in your life. Here's why:

I was in this movement when I left the Charity sector and went to write my blog. It seemed a good cause, and a good way to help with good clean mental health tips filtrated through the system. I even went as far as to jump on the metoo movement back in the day.

It all fell apart when I stood up and started talking about when I was raped as a kid by an older girl and started speaking on what a devastating impact it had on me as a young man, and an adult. Took years to work through that, and I mean yeeeears.

But then suddenly I was told to sit down and shut up because this was a female empowerment moment, and you know, yes, that was only one or two women that told me this and it wasn't the collective but it did give me cause to investigate, so I did.

  • I read all about Bill Clinton being a serial rapist and it never once being investigated.

  • I read all about the massive disparities in emergency support for domestic abuse survivors with Men v Women

  • I talked to hundreds of men (and women), and read thousands more on the family court system and how it strangleholds men into using their kids as weapons to financially abuse them

And you know what? Anytime I tried to talk about any of this I was laughed at, scoffed, was told that I hated women, I was racist, sexist, and whatever else under the sun.

So it seems to be quite Political and not derived from any social good - I've always been taught "do no harm" in whatever I've put my hand to, so I can't quite get behind this whole kick men out to let women in. I've always been of the mind that if you help one, there's nothing stopping you from helping the other also.

Quick story. When I was doing a training course in the mental health sector, the teacher was telling us that the disparities in abuse between the genders for vulnerable people were quite neck and neck, and me being the young naive boy that I was, I scoffed, and laughed, and shouted - "how does a woman abuse a man? hahahaha"

Lady walked right up to me, standing tall above my table, looked me in the eye, and said, "Raymond, I want to fuck you. Come meet me after class"

Well, I must have felt the size of a peanut as I looked around, everyone's eyes on me, beetroot red, didn't know what to say. I was not only quiet, but wished the ground would swallow me up.

"That! Is only one of the ways in which you can abuse a man" -- she turned back to the class and smiled at me calmly as if to say it was over now.

So I digress. I've been through enough in this life to know it's a struggle for us all.

I could go into the ways on how our history has been revised in such a way that makes men look horrific when in reality it was brutal for us all. But that would be more of a dissertation than anything else. So I'll save you from it lol.


Equality is a pipe dream. All men and women are not born equal, making them equal is forcing some people into doing what they don't want to do.

In your equality vision - what do you do with those that simply do not want equality and just want to be left to their own devices? And resist it at all costs?

I'm more of a person that wants to help people compete with one another on fair terms. That's me :)

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Oh. Thanks for engaging!

  • What is your relationship like with your Father? Or, if none, what was your relationship like with the leading men in your life?

My dad was a legend and no man will ever live up to him. The end :D
 

  • Do you have a son?

Yep. And I'm teaching him how not to be a man (by society's dictates of what this is... just sad 😔)
 



 

  • I can shout Rape and people will take me seriously

Really? We have something called "The cautionary Rule" out here in SA. Legally added to legislature for such cases. It cautions the court to not believe the woman because women are dishonest and shouldn't be trusted. Only removed quite recently but the legacy lives on sadly.

Men are believed first around here. Always. It's just the way things are. As far as men being raped... I know a few who were as I work in the arena of mental health and addiction... they just don't report it mostly due to the stigma (see video above). Also very sad.

In some countries... if a woman is raped she is publicly stoned for being promiscuous. Still.

Perhaps your comment depends on where you live in the world?

 

  • I can get into clubs and bars for free

Really? Send me the names so I can too, please :D

If a woman is gifted with anything by a man, it's because he wants to fuck her. The end. I'd trade paying to get into a club for being treated like an object any day. It's pretty awful and depressing... and disrespectful... #justsaying

 

  • Men rush around to help me when I'm in distress

Please god send them my way!

Also - because they want to fuck the woman. Especially if she's in distress. Easy meat (see above). Horrific! In addition... they will withdraw offers of assistance if she won't. Fact!

 

  • When I'm in distress I'm (usually) taken way more seriously than my male counterparts.

Totally incorrect. The diagnoses for "Hysteria", once seen to be purely a feminine "disorder", was only removed from the DSM in 1980. Yep. 1980! (You may know this already if you worked in mental health?)

Women are still seen as "dramatic", overly emotional or downright crazy if they are distressed about anything much.

 

-I can have sex with someone, get pregnant, and then the sole decision on whether it lives or dies rests on my shoulders.

Point taken.

But personal freedom and autonomy. If I do not have complete freedom over my own body then... well... I think this is probably the single most horrific thing a person can do to another human being.

This discussion moves into Human Rights Violations.

 

  • I can also choose to fully birth number 5, and regardless of how the man feels about it, make him financially responsible for 18 years.

The man is equally responsible for avoiding unwanted pregnancies. If you are actually into equality. No-brainer. No discussion.

 

  • I can terminate number 5, regardless of what the male chooses.

Repetitive. Speaks to personal motivation and lack of objectivity in this discussion. (answered above)

 

  • People take violence against my gender WAY more seriously than any other - ie Where are the battered men shelters? Why aren't we talking about men are just as scared to go out in the dark at night as women?

Only because most men don't report it. See answer above please. Yes. Stats are almost 50% equal regarding domestic violence and abuse. I also worked in this arena for a year or so. Not fun.

 

  • Violence against men charities don't exist, even although violence against men is way higher, and partner-relationship violence between genders is in similar numbers.

Repetitive and speaks to personal motivation. I'm sorry if you were hurt or knew someone who was. It's horrific and brutal. (also... due to not being reported because of stigma... so less support and facilities again. Stats incorrect though. Or perhaps that is location based. Here is it almost and even 50/50% - just under but around this)

 

  • Child rape in schools is taken far more seriously when the victim is my gender, rather than a male counterpart, and the person that did the crime given way more serious jail time if he is a man.

I can't comment as have not researched this. I do know that an alleged rapist is usually out on bail for around R200, within days, here in South Africa. If they bother to investigate or arrest him at all. Often the police just ignore women who ask for assistance in South Africa.

 

  • People consider my problems, and is largely documented in schools, colleges, universities and in the private sector. I couldn't list many problems men have because we don't talk or consider it much - men don't have problems anyway? Do they?

Due to gender stereotyping and social constructs. Which is why I spend so much time trying to discuss them and break them down. I have a son.

 

I answered these questions before I read the rest of your comment... to do it methodically.

I suspected you were hurt and I'm really sorry you had that experience.

You teacher sounds ignorant and should not be teaching any children anything, quite frankly.

She's a fucking idiot.

But you get them.

People who are into oppression because of the power and control? They are more on the scale towards sociopathic. You can't do much about them.

What we can do is up skill the good souls (like you) to be strong and resilient, to see the predators early on (prevention is the best way forward) and to fight when they have to, because it's not a gentle world. We should probably teach our kids how to fight and that they should then fight to the death if necessary. Like take the m*therfucker down fight hard.

And then teach them when to fight and how to walk away first, if they can.

We've gone soft, too scared to talk about the gritty side of life. All love and light and no truth or reality. And it's allowing people to get hurt!

So thank you for your courage and for engaging. And the time you put in to doing this

👏

Also... a male friend of mine shared his rape during the #meetoo campaign. Online on Facebook. He was supported by myself, and some other women, publicly.

Those that didn't do that for you? Ignorance and fear again. That's more about them than it is about you. That is not yours to carry, my friend. You can put that down.

Pretty much the same for anyone's "opinion" of you. Really... people see and hear what suits them best personally. It is what it is.

Stay you and keep up the good fight 💥💕

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So your culture it seems is quite different from mine then - which is understandable, I learn new things differently each day!

Alright, to answer your answers lol

So if a woman is screaming rape in the streets and pointing at me I better have the evidence to back it up! (my innocence) Or I'm going straight to jail. I worry for my son, not that he's going to go out raping people, but the guilty before innocent and the stress he will have to go through.

I do believe that the large portion of women are good, though, and it's only a few outliers that have created this distrust amongst men, which sucks, but as I was told in training -- If it can happen, no matter how low the chance is, if you haven't protected yourself, you bet it will happen to you.


You've got this wrong about men. The in-built mechanisms within us make us want to protect women are strong. Don't believe me? Do a poll. It's biological. I'm married, and if there's a woman on the street crying, you bet I'm stopping to see if everything's ok. No other intention there whatsoever.

I hate to say it but I'm walking straight past a man I don't know. He can sort his own shit out


The video you shared was spot on. I couldn't agree with this more. Connection is what it's all about (Maslows Hierarchy of Needs)


As for distress, again, if I break down people will ignore me like I said above! I promise I'll be laughed at - multiple social experiments have been done on this just do a google search.

Alas, again, it could be a culture thing.

Fun fact I learned (which you probably know) women were diagnosed with hysteria, and the treatment was a "vibrator" -- you can't make this shit up! lol

Also, another fun fact is that up until modern times, if a man was caught getting beat up by his wife he'd be tied to the town square and whipped for being weak.

Crazy, huh?


There is no motivation, and also I didn't even know that I was abused until I was mid-30's and talked to someone about it in passing. The work I did on myself was previously and all to do with connecting positively with a partner and to stop using sex and masturbation as a way to alleviate stress. I hold no ill will to the young girl because god knows what was going on in her home to be thinking that it's okay to do that with me.

The reason I was repetitive is that I think those reasons needed a separate issue on their own


Teacher wasn't an idiot as I was 28 at the time and doing an on-the-job training course. She taught me a valuable lesson, and made me realise that women weren't the innocent delicate creatures that society will have us believe. 15 years later I still remember this lesson! lol. Don't get me wrong, like men, I think the overwhelming population of women want to do good. It's just that small minority.


Again, I'm not a real believer in social construction. There's too much biology at play. The way we were built plays a heavy part in the way that we act and it plays out in wider society. If you site social construction then you at least have to account for the biological aspects that we are slaves to.


Okay, so I'll admit, I am enjoying this. You don't sound crazy, or over emotional.

But I still don't see it as a fight. I'd rather work with, than tear down.

My thoughts are there needs more people acting like families again, and there needs to be a strong "community leader" presence nearby. People have no direction anymore, no solidity -- no-one helps anyone anymore.

I used to get the old man across the street's shopping when I was a kid because he couldn't do it himself. That's not a thing anymore.

More fathers and mothers in the community, helping out, teaching kids, then we'd probably see some good stuff happen again.

Anyway, I digress.

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Oh, digress away. I couldn't agree more!

Humanity has lost... well... it's humanity.

We're more akin to a hungry pack of wild dogs at this point. I'd say wolves, but wolves are loyal, so...

What country are you in? It sounds so foreign to anything I've heard of.

Perhaps I'll suggest my daughter emigrate to your place.

As things stand, it's honestly dangerous to be a woman in my country. Genuinly

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Apolgies for all these accounts. I have many lol. I forget myself sometimes

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No worries.

I ramble around as well. I couldn't handle more than one account though

Geesh. 😅

Women from South Africa get refugee status in a variety of more progressive countries if they're in a situation of domestic violence btw.

We are not so proudly world renowned for how patriarchal and abusive the system out here is. Still.

Fucking embarrassing.

I've heard stories about police officers beating and threatening to kill their wives and their buddies threatening the same if the woman tries to get help.

It's Iike that 🖕🏼

Women and children have absolutely no voice here at all.

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Also

Sorry for the rather short responses on my side.

Super tired right now and taking a bit of a break (finally)

I'll be back to learn more from you for sure and thanks for the conversation 👍🏼

It's how we may learn from each other and actually progress

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