Turntable + Camera Rotations

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Alas, my only rotation rig is the tripod collar of my 70-200. Which works, but somehow, I'm not a huge fan of the method. While I enjoy using my gear, I don't enjoy abusing it. And the feeling of rotating the 70-200 in the dark in the collar, it tends to want to pop out, feels like it's grinding around etc. Not only that but there are no indents. So doing a perfect 180, 45, 90 etc. degree rotation is pretty hard and I've not had much success with that, things don't really line up the way they should. Yeah I know there are those indexing rotator and the L brackets but I just wanna make it motorized and figured I'll focus on that and come up with something fairly novel.

I have long dreamed of coming up with a 'high-tech' solution to the camera rotation, something involving a stepper motor and an Arduino to control the servo amount and hence the rotation. The most difficult part is coming up with the physical linkage between my envisioned 'carriage' and the stepper motor. Something that can handle the moment load it would generate and of course be sturdy and robust enough to put my trust in. Nobody wants to mount their camera and lens on a piece of garbage that's going to fall apart and drop everything. I am planning on using 2020 aluminum T-Slot extrusion for the frame/carriage, I have a lot of that as well I have the Arduino and servo as well as the motor control board. The only thing I am missing is a 3d printer.

Before I migrated to my current location, I upgraded the 3d printer I have and the upgrade tended to make the printer work even worse than it had before. Pressed for time, I kinda just put the printer into storage and onto the back burner - bringing it here really wasn't an option at the time anyways. But I have been considering purchasing a smaller 3d printer for this and other projects because they definitely are fun to play around with, especially when you start to get the hang of CAD software and are able to design your own parts.

The only 'jury rig' thing I can think of as a solution would be to use a bike hub but even then connecting the shaft of the stepper to the axle of the bike isn't an easy task. I'm not just about to use duct tape, like I mentioned before I enjoy my gear intact. I have a shaft coupler that can mate the axle of the bike hub to the servo, but I believe I would have to shave down the diameter of the bike axle to make this work. And then finding a suitable way to mount the bike hub onto a tripod might be kinda weird. Regardless enough theoretical rambling that probably doesn't amount to much sense. Without a diagram of what I am trying to explain it's a bit hard to visualize and I'm not feeling like whipping one up just yet.

So I thought of using this turntable as a sort of platform and I was all gung ho until I realized, the turntable has a tonearm, counterbalance, cartridge etc. on the same plane as the platter. That was a bit of a damper until I thought I could just use a small lightstand to elevate things. With careful balancing, I managed to get it to work and came up with a series of shots that got progressively more crazy the more lights I started to add.

Behold:

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The Basis - 5s, f16, 85mm



Cohesion disruption - 5s, f16, 85mm



Orbit - 5s, f16, 85mm



Spire - 30s, f16, 85mm



Redpath - 30s, f16, 85mm



Iteration - 30s, f13, 85mm



Floral Arrangement - 30s, f14, 70mm



Distortions on the cartesian plane - 30s, f14, 70mm



Synchronous - 30s, f14, 80mm



Floral Arrangement 2 - 30s, f16, 78mm



I C U - 30s, f16, 70mm



Geometry Engine - 30s, f16, 70mm



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I love how detailed shapes ❤️ That's gorgeous!
It looks very quiet and amazing here. Great work dear @synrg

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Pardon me I missed your comment...it is very quiet 🤫 perfect for introspection and self inquiry. The effect I mentioned before would be better described as a double exposure... I'll have to leaf through your blog and see if you have something like that, I've yearned to try something like that for a while (along with getting some better PS skills all around) sometimes tough to get time to spend on the computer. You'd think it's easy with the quiet 😂 but working on getting there. Feeling good though for this year.

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Awesome results. turntables FTW!

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Thanks Hugo. I noticed as well, there is a lazy suzan on the table 😈

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It's great to experiment. And see your thought process too. There's a FB Camera Rotation and Kinetic Photography group you might want to take a look at for CRT methods :-)

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Yes, experimentation and often the “mistakes” is how all the cool stuff comes to fruition. My thought process here consisted mainly of “How much stuff can I attach to this lightstand without it falling over and/or breaking the turntable” 🤣 I’ve already repaired the thing once. Also, similar to your IG exit, I just had a fb exit just as of yesterday! So unless if I go back within the 30 day allotted time and cancel the delete, I’m outta there like a herd of turtles. Simplifying my life a bit 🙃

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If I didn't run the Camera Rotation Group on FB I'd have probably left too. I could happily live my social media life on the Hive as the sole form of social media.

I like to experiment too. I have a hard drive full of failures where what I set out to do didn't work but the experience saves me time on the next shot. One or two of the failures have been down to equipment failure in my case so I tend to run with it and adapt like with this one where the tripod head had collapsed and wouldn't sit level:

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I’m always seeming to forget to properly tighten down the head... overzealously going for the shot and it’s like NOPE SLOW DOWN COWBOY 🤣 As much as I love those lens swap pics, I’m still wary of trying. Perhaps I might try some lightpainting double exposure since my camera has that feature but swapping mid exposure... one needs balls of steel for that 😉 And yeah FB tends to get more and more involved over time, making it harder to leave and I figured if not now it’s probably never going to happen. Admittedly I’m still on the fence but as we all know it’s more “worthwhile” posting on here. Like you said Zuck doesn’t need more dollars. Also all the constant talk/ads of the metaverse turns me off. “Real World” is enough without having to invent some parallel cyber universe to exist in. Potentially scary thing about hive is there is never any account delete if one day decided wanted to do that too for whatever reason. But yeah that’s something to keep in mind and not post all your personal details. Thats what blockchains are I suppose. One last thing, whats the T stand for in CRT? Techniques?

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CRT = Camera Rotation Tool. We had a kind of committe amongst other rotating photographers and that name seems to have stuck. If you look up indexing rotator or panoramic gimbal; these are alternative method for rotating a camera around the lens axis.

I just bought an expensive new camera and it's really making me slow down and tighten "everything" !!

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Aha, I wouldn't have thought of that T 😜 If/when (most likely when) I come up with my rotator tool I'll be writing up here all about it. As well maybe I would just go with the indexing rotator, they're not insanely expensive and relative to what I'm envisioning would be a fairly compact piece of kit. As well, congrats on the new camera! I bet you'd want to be careful. I'll still be in SLR land for quite a while but excited to hear how it's working out for ya when you get a chance.

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This is a really cool set. More please 👏👏

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Compared to the works that you’re pulling off, this is nothing, but it’s a start for sure and thank you 😊 I am definitely going to play with the turntable and/or lazy suzan some more.

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You're very kind. I have had some success with a lazy Susan with my mobile phone sat on top playing a fractal video. Those can yield some beautiful and unexpected results. Have fun and I look forward to seeing more. Happy days.

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Wow yes the Jerry and the rigging is working those are stunning. I would live to see fire dancers with the same idea you are using here. I like your hard lines of light.

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