RE: New Hive Spam Network

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That is not the #irredeemables list.

That is the list I referred to. While you should rescind your unkind comments about me due to their inaccuracy, I don't care if you do or not. Your comments are about you.

My comments reveal me. I have spoken factually and accurately regarding this issue. I have refrained from ad hominems. You have made false claims, misstated facts, and personally maligned me.

If I were you, you'd be on the list by now.

This is the harm undertaking solitary power to censor people is doing to you. I strongly urge you to stop harming yourself psychologically by keeping this power your personal fief. Do the right thing and enable a public vote on #irredeemables list inclusion.

Do it for your own safety and health, if not to protect Hive from censorship.

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He was never on that either.

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Welp, I can't prove it, and he ain't tellin'. His accounts are the entirety of the list at it's inception, save for one account of Bernie's, which means I misspoke when I said Bernie was never sanctioned.

For my mistake I apologize.

I still think @fulltimegeek account was on that list, or some other mechanism prevented his posting and commenting of which I am unaware. Your coyness with factual information at your disposal does you no credit, and strongly discounts your veracity.

Stop.Censoring.People.Because.Of.Their.Opinions.

Get @joe.public off that list. He's no spammer, and censoring him does no good to Hive. In fact, it does the opposite, and degrades strongly any claim it can make to censorship resistance, and that at your hands.

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The entire list and it's history is here

https://github.com/steemit/irredeemables

It is owned and operated by Steemit Inc.

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Yeah, I just reviewed it's initial state, as I mention above.

The URL is not the factual information of which I speak. Deeds done in darkness reveal the injustice of the doers. Let the light of public knowledge inoculate you from that threat of disgrace.

Protect Hive from secret malfeasance of bad actors by doing your job in the full light of public knowledge. If you care, if you can, you will.

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I added tons of people to that list and they were hurting people. Example

steemitdefenceleague https://stish.io/the-steemit-defence-league-is-stopping-the-top-trolls-fake-abuse-reporters-and-i-have-decided-to-help-them/

I would have added many more, I will not mention those names but abuse was rampant at steem and its the same here.

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I am aware you became involved in antispam activities some time ago, but appreciate your substantive and informative comment here.

I have come to learn, as I wrassled with this issue, that there are problems and threats that simply have no other solutions at this time, AFAIK.

I am still not convinced actually eliminating the ability of individuals to post or comment on Hive, complete censorship in actual fact, should be undertaken without a vote of stakehodlers.

I also do not think that administering that tool to protect Hive should be slavery, nor left to volunteers alone. As you mention, there is no simple way to do it, and that difficulty necessitates it should be compensated, so that folks are able to be held to account.

I remain far too uninformed on these issues yet, so if you can add more that will improve my understanding, or correct errors I make, I will continue to be grateful for your help.

Thank you.

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After being attacked for telling the truth and doing good on steem I had to find a way to curb the abusers. It seems that unless you were part of a group you would have no chance.

I only dreamed of having enough steem to make a difference. Carrots were dangled before my eyes and I chased them but they never were available. We invested more than 15k USD in steem and escaped with only a 5 k loss. SO for us the crimes here matter.

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I am sad that you have suffered that loss, and hope what you have gained from your work to keep the community maintained, and in any other ways you have benefited from the community, has more value to you and yours.

I do agree crimes matter to free people, and I myself have lost hundreds of USD in value to a scammer by being hacked on Steem. It is thanks to you and @themarkymark that far more valuable discourse and information I have been blessed by more than makes up for that trivial inconvenience.

Thank you.

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I can say that @themarkymark and I both worked together tirelessly to stop the steeemitdefenceleague. And Criminal accounts like this one https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@crokkon/removing-delegations-from-faucet-abusers-1541087281843 @naturicia had a few great post about another group stealing so much with faucet delegations. Coundn't find it

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I just want you to be aware of this, because I think it may matter to you. It's not enough and overdue, but I have requested opportunity to provide a more satisfactory recompense as desirable.

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I have stayed away from all computer games. Life is too short..... I must live in the now and with humans.

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