Bozzlife: Parler? Why not Hive?
These days it is pretty rare the amount of time that I spend on Facebook. Especially given the recent election stuff and some tinkering Facebook did with their algorithms that was causing people I had purposely unfollowed to start showing up in my feed again.
Let's be honest, there are quite a few things that Facebook actually does right. It is a great tool for staying connected with friends and family. Many businesses use Facebook versus a traditional web page to get out information and reach their target audience.
School districts like the one I work at use Facebook as a way to distribute updates and information to parents. In many cases it is the parents preferred method of contact or information.
While I don't necessarily believe in censorship, I do feel that Facebook and Twitter have the right to flag or remove false or misleading information from their platform. As good digital citizens, we should be fairly deft at recognizing false information or at the least know where to go to see if it is accurate or not.
Sadly, many people do not have the time or desire to do that and instead they propagate lies, false narratives, and the like throughout these platforms. As I said, I feel Facebook (or whatever) has the absolute right to block that stuff. I have never seen a single promotional material from any of the major social media platforms that touts freedom of speech. On the same token you also have every right to stop using that platform if you feel you are being censored.
Which brings me to Parler. Over the past couple of weeks I have been seeing a growing number of people on Facebook talking about a mass exit from Facebook to this Parler platform. This is unverified (I am a horrible digital citizen), but apparently Parler is a platform for people who lean to the far right politically.
I am not one of those people, so I don't really care to find out if that is the case. Let's say it is true and my wholesome down to Earth liberal morals and scarred for life from what I see there. In fact, I am avoiding linking to the site because if that is the case I don't want to give them any more traffic than necessary. Feel free to Google them if that sort of thing tickles your fancy.
My bigger question is, why not Hive?
Listen, I am not saying all members of the right are nut jobs, I know some very fine people who have different opinions than I do. However, occasionally the stuff can be very racist and nationalist at times. As much as I would hate to see that sort of stuff find it's way to Hive, I can't deny that it has a home here.
We truly are censorship free (for the most part). I am not going to be the one to do it, but with this mass exodus from Facebook, this could be a perfect opportunity to grow the Hive user base. We always talk about how we need more people on the platform, we never said we needed to agree with the content they post.
This isn't by any means a call to action. Think of it more as a food for thought exercise.
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I don't have too many contacts on FB, but have not heard mention of this migration there. I have seen some Hive people talk about it on Twitter. It seems Parler do censor some stuff, as they may be required to by local law wherever they operate. Hive front ends can censor if forced to, but the content will still be there. If people use an app then they are not dependent on a web site.
I would not like to see Hive turn into purely a haven for people excluded elsewhere. Maybe we will see more flagging over political opinions in future.
I think that is part of what would be a good thing about them coming to Hive. They still have the freedom to post what they want, but users also have the right to flag them if they want. As I said, this was more of a thinking exercise than a call to action ;)
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Good lord, please don't let those far right wingnuts end up here. A lot of those people live in some kind of alternate reality where facts just don't matter as long as they can "own the libs".
My time on Facebook has been greatly decreased since I started getting into crypto. I tend to think the only good thing on Facebook is my friends. If someone could come up with a friends like Hive front end that brought friends together and let them earn crypto... it would be a game changer.
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Hey, I agree with you. I don't want to see that stuff either, but it would be a good way to grow the platform because unfortunately there are lot of them out there :). That would be pretty game changing for Hive if they could come up with something like that. Then they would also need some kind of Google account SSO tie in so the general public doesn't have to fiddle with public and private keys. Kind of like WAX Cloud Wallet already has in place.
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I'm not so sure it's a mass exodus, but how would I know? I don't average twice per month on FB.
I'd love to see them come to Hive as a community. So if I chose not to look I don't have to look under any circumstances. Trending, Hot, Feed. Never.
It's why I'd like to see communities organize on the second level with the blockchain mainly as storage. I believe that people have the right and need to say what ever they damn please but I have the right and need not to look at it.
You may be right, it might not be a mass exodus, but I know a handful of my "friends" on Facebook are moving to it. Who knows if that will keep them from continuing to post stuff on Facebook.
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A fellow anarchist posted on FB the other day that he was moving to Flote. I commented simply, ‘HIVE’. The response I received was that people aren’t going to migrate to a SM site that requires a tutorial to use it.
Sure, for someone who has zero knowledge of crypto and BC tech are going to have a fairly steep learning curve...but that’s not the point. Hive is more than just SM. Some even speculate that SM will be one of the smaller aspects of Hive in the future.
This blockchain has so much potential, and it’s just starting to be tapped into. I’m glad I can see the forest for the trees while unfortunately others only see the bark on the tree in front of them.
That is too bad that they are unwilling to try. I have to believe at one point Facebook seemed just as foreign to them, but after a while they got used to it. In fact the way FB changes everything around every month can that really be considered more intuitive than Hive?
Right?! Every time FB updates it takes a while to get used to. Some don't want to take the time. I think until people are personally effected, like banned or censored themselves, they're cool with the status quo. It's gonna take some time, but there's no doubt in my mind that everyone will eventually be effected.
It was nice, I was watching a video earlier put out by James Corbett on the party for the exodus of YouTube and he had on a few other media folks that were banned from YouTube and their ilk and two of them, Broze (justin?) and Ryan Christian brought up Hive as an alternative. That was great to see! These are people with pretty extensive influences across the alternative space. They brought up some others but Ryan made it a point to mention Hive and that it's great. Not bad!
That is pretty cool.
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I deleted my Facebook many years ago, It would have been nice if it were just family and friends. I didn't like everyone knowing my business. I wouldn't be surprised to see more come to Hive with easier sign-ups.
I'm kinda Right-leaning with a Libertarian view.
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I'd probably be the other way, Left leaning libertarian.
People will go to Parler because it is easy to sign up for. Hive, and Steem before it, is not. I know that we don't think that now but there was a time that most of us probably did as well.
As far as it being right-wing, there is a lot of that on there yes, but there are plenty of leftist stuff on there too but here in the kicker that I am sure all of you that are terrified of conservative viewpoints are concerned: nobody forces you to read that stuff.
If Hive was as easy to sign up for as Parler is, we could have that.. but it isn't and therefore we wont.
I actually don't mind conservative view points, so I probably didn't word that the greatest. Unfortunately in my experience the people with those viewpoints also have bigotted hateful viewpoints and that is what I can't handle. We all just need a little more empathy.
oh for sure (about the empathy) I remember a time when your political affiliation was just something you would mention in passing and then get back to taking shots of Jager and talking about sports or chicks or something. I miss those days, especially since the heated arguments that people get in result in exactly zero people changing their minds and in the worst cases that people exit lifelong friendships or even family-relations over something that honestly has very little impact on their lives.
For sure!
People love it where things are buzzling. I was one of the first users of Hive weeks ago, built I saw it a bunch of censoring space. People naturally don't love it where there is true freedom. Soon, their eyes would get opened.
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