The Dangers of DeFi: the COSTs

in LeoFinance6 months ago (edited)

hey everyone, now that there is a new realm of adventure opened up to Leo writers and HIVE-ians, I hope this quick update that I know since my experimental journey to find the best DeFi (or CeFi BSC for some people) will help newbies have their newest and easiest experience without burning a HUGE WHOLE in their wallet in the big boy's battlefield - ETH chain.


If you haven't seen my extensive writeups, you can feel free to check them out in my posts in (mostly) read.cash (because I was sharing more about crypto to the n00bs there) to have a better understanding how I tried, and even BURNT (badly) from a rug pull site!

Therefore, this post is going to be (sort of) short and straight to the point for you to know and think when you exit, after several tests, trials, and planning.

1. Pools

Pools are great, they started in Pancake swap, however there are some things you need to remember.

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Remember: some Pools are limited supply, such as PancakeSwap and ApeSwap, including Squirrel.Finance; so if you are not confident you cannot get at least your gas fees covered, don't enter!

(So far Pancake Swap's longer lasting pools right now are SFP and LIT, however, the yield is so low you might be in a loss if you go in too late)

2. Every Command (or Click) COSTS YOU MONEY (gas fees)

If you have limited funds, choose the most comfortable you have with you, and you just go for one.

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A very good example is when you have a wide pools invested, and when it said "Harvest All" in the home page and has a number to it, like this one above that states (4), this means when you click on that, you will have 4 commands executed, which also means you need to pay gas fees x 4 and their prices varies depending on the complexity of the pool / farm contract.

3. Know the sequence! Every Pool Has these sequences

(if you already have the native BEP20 tokens token to invest)

  1. Unlock the pool

  2. Stake your token into the pool

  3. Harvest mined tokens from pool

  4. Unstake your token from the pool (when you want to stop the whole process)

There are ALWAYS AT LEAST 4 steps of gas fees you need to prepare yourself when you enter and exit. Unlocking pools usually cost between $0.12 - $0.30 (depending on BNB price), and stake and unstake can cost you between $0.40 - $0.90 (depending on BNB price and complexity of the contract)


For N00bs / Newbies:

Contract is like a small program. So every time you want to run / execute the program, you need to pay for its service to activate the program.


4. Plan your harvest!

I know a lot of people would be so excited to test the stake and harvest mined tokens they forgot that when you activate harvesting, you need to pay fees.

So what is your best time to have your FIRST harvest?

If your mind tokens covers all of these below:

  1. Transfer fee from your native coin (if you use BCH) to BSC chain.

  2. Transfer fee for your $BNB tokens on BSC chain

  3. Activate pool fee

  4. Stake pool fee

  5. Harvest pool fee

  6. Deposit fee (for CubDeFi.com if you are not staking CUBs)

  7. Optional: Unstake fee

Therefore, the best preparation for how much harvest you should take is:

Adding up your expenses

(1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6) = your first harvest mined token's price based on the market price of the day.
(1 / current token's price) x (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 costs)

For example, because I already have BNB in my wallet when I tested CubDeFi.com , I only needed to remember my CUB tokens mined for that specific pool covers row 1,3,4 + harvest fee to cover my first gas fee loss.


Your continuous harvest

After that you can subsequently see how much % of your capital you want to harvest + harvest fee you want, add those in, and aim for the mined token price on that day to cover your fees.

If you plan to immediately swap it back to the coin that you love, like BCH, then you need to add in swap fee + transfer fee out to Binance.com, and transfer fee back to your external wallet for secure keeping.

Therefore for harvesting capital gains back to BCH (for example) native for example coin would be:

Harvest gas fee + % capital + swap fee + transfer out to Binance.com fee + Binance.com to native wallet fee.


Remember, not your keys, not your wallet.

Don't keep your earned capital in Binance.com for too long.


Yes. It is very nerve wrecking, but if you know all these and you have a notebook / better still, a spreadsheet to record these, you will know approximately when you can harvest, and how much you can harvest without losing too much in between.

I do hope that this brief walkthrough of your preparation on fees will help you to plan ahead and BE READY when you jump into DeFi space. Otherwise, you might lose more than you gain if you are not wise with your planning.

Until then

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Time sure flies! I am "3 years old" now! haha

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Finally a use for all that useless math I learned in high school..

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haha. finally a good place to use it.

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