LEO As A Store Of Value

Over time, the purpose of a token can change.

Bitcoin was established as an electronic peer-to-peer transfer of value system. This was the original vision of Satoshi.

As we know, Bitcoin took on different properties over the years. With the influx of Wall Street, we see that speculation is the nature of the game now. Companies have little interest in using Bitcoin for transacting, they have dozens of ways to do that. They do like the fact that the price is likely to keep appreciating over time, making their holdings more valuable.

This is leading many to believe that Bitcoin can be the foundation of an entirely new financial system since it can be the base layer which is collateralized. Thus additional layers will be built upon the value that Bitcoin brings to the table.

While I am not a proponent of there just being one token (coin) operating in this capacity, the concept makes total sense. In fact, one a smaller scale, I see the same thing happening with the LEOfinance token (LEO).

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In one of the posted by @leofinance, we were told that a way to think about the LEO token is as a "holding company". It will be the core asset which derives its value from other projects that are built along with it. This integration of "ownership" will enable LEO to grow in value over time.

The challenge with this view is the token has value on its own. It is traded on an open market as well as serving the role of Proof-of-Brain on leofinance.io. This was the original use case of LEO, something that is obviously expanding.

It is this expansion that leads me to believe that we can see LEO adopt the store of value characteristics that Bitcoin is acheiving.

One thing that leads me to this conclusion is the fact that people are acquiring LEO and not willing to sell it. They believe there will be higher prices down the road. This means it does not operate for transactional purposes since most token holders are being conditioned to speculate. This is what took place with Bitcoin.

Not that this is necessarily a bad thing. One of the advantages to cryptocurrency is that another token can always be created to fill in whatever roles are missing. Thus, one token does not have to fulfill all use cases.

That said, when we look at the ever expanding Leo platform, we see many different projects taking shape. Without going into them all, we see a mixture of social media along with DeFi. Who knows what else will be added to the list over the next couple years?

Whatever the development is, we understand that lending and other financial matters will be added to the platform. This could all be backed by the value of LEO, forming the basis of a new economy. From there, we can collateralize the asset for further expansion while also being aided by the Network Effect.

A couple million people on the different aspects of the platform would bring huge value to the overall ecosystem. Plus, all financial necessities could be filled through even more development, creating a financial supermarket.

All this stems from the foundation being laid by the LEO token.

At present, we see a few advantages to LEO. To start, it is a Proof-of-Brain token that is enhancing the distribution. Each month, more people are using Leofinance.io, which is resulting in the token ending up in more hands. This is an advantage and paramount to the decentralization process.

We also see an aggressive inflation rate. This is something that people misunderstand as a negative. Inflation allows for expansion and more people to participate. In this instance, the growth rate of Leo is far exceeding what the inflation rate. That results in the token not only being swallowed up, but also ending up in a liquidity crisis. Even with the numbers we are at now, which overall are low when compared to the potential market, there is not enough LEO out there for all who want it.

This is the ultimate in Network Effects. The feeder system is going to be multi-faceted creating an ever increasing basket of opportunities for those who are involved. The LEO token can be used to finance whatever ventures are required to build upon it. However, the more that is created, the greater the value of the platform as a whole, including the LEO token. It is the ultimate feedback loop.

Each new person, no matter what level they participate, adds to the entire ecosystem. This provides more value to those individual tokens, again feeding into LEO.

In the end, we could see the LEO economy becoming the real thing. This could end up including millions of people as the entities built on top grow and reach further out.

For now, it is just a matter of getting more pieces in place. With the pace of development, we will see this happening over the next 3-5 years. At that point, the value of LEO could be through the roof, serving as the backbone for tens billions of dollars of worth of economic activity.

LEO might be evolving into a store of value token which will be collateralized for an entirely new economy.


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Bitcoin is a store of value perhaps because it is limited in issuance and technology, but LEO may have more "agile" utilities, perhaps they cannot be compared, but LEO like HIVE are the easiest way for people to have a cryptocurrency that they can then use it by buying a coffee, bitcoin to achieve this must be integrated into another system, it means that the nature of bitcoin can be a store of value, while LEO can evolve more.

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LEO value is a reflection of the user trust. Not only is useful as storing value, also it creates more value while stored, that’s even better!

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@jmsansan.leo one thing I observed is that the more users trust a particular crypto then the higher the probability of that certain crypto getting successful and more valuable....users trust matters alot....

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All value comes down to trust. That is really all there is. People talk about intrinsic value yet something has value when two people agree upon it.

Look at what happens to economies when people lose trust in the government.

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Leo as a store of value would be a dream come true. If it can develop into a "launching pad" like some of these other tokens are trying to do (polkastarter, PAID, and the like) the value would skyrocket. People would buy and hold Leo not just for the utility it holds right now, but for the value it potentially brings in the future. The best of both worlds! And, with those two utilities, you're right, it could very easily become a better version of bitcoin. Store of value plus proof of brain plus access to future innovations. I'm not saying the price would in any way rival Bitcoin, but it could certainly reach very, very high valuations.

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You summed up how I potentially see it. The more that is constructed on Leo, the better chance that has of taking place. We are early enough in the game where the LeoFi applications that are created over the next year or two could end up becoming very popular. If that happens, we would see LEO serve as the collateral token for the lending and associated financial activities build on top of it.

In essence, we would be mirroring the economy at large, just using LEO as the foundation.

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Have you heard about TrustSwap? They seem to be like Polkastarter only with a bunch more features. The ecosystem looks like it's going places.

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For now, it is just a matter of getting more pieces in place. With the pace of development, we will see this happening over the next 3-5 years. At that point, the value of LEO could be through the roof, serving as the backbone for tens billions of dollars of worth of economic activity

@taskmaster4450le with the way the LEO economy is going,I see that really happening soon and it will be interesting to see that come into existence ...

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This is an interesting viewpoint. I like the idea that Leo could be seen as the central point of a larger ecosystem. I do have some concern about the point that Leo is being held and not sold. Seeing that Leo is not listed on any major exchanges (as far as I know) I think it could be a confounding variable in the argument that it is not changing hands very often. When a major exchange lists some leo tokens that they have acquired at some point I will be very interested in seeing what type of action follows that. Great points raised though and I am hopeful we will grow into a large ecosystem as well!

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The idea of LEO changing hands is counter to the idea of serving as an instrument of collateral especially in the early stages.

You are right, it is not on any major exchanges at this point. However, to be of service in the capacity I am outlining, the key is for it to be in strong hands, not having high trading volume. It can be acquired on Uniswap which rivals many centralized exchanges.

Nevertheless, it is non issue at this moment since the financial applications yet to exist in the manner needed for any of this to come to reality. That will have to take place over the next year.

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Fair counter there, I am now understanding the trajectory of your prediction much better. I do like the idea of it being an instrument of collateral, my fear always lies in what markets will do to pricing. When those financial applications do exist I hope we do find a collection of strong hands to balance out everything.

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Absolutely the larger the ecosystem the more opportunity the core token has to be a reliable store of value. Utility, utility, utility!

On the topic of proof of brain tokens I think LEO has always had one of the better distributions, but it's been a while since I've checked on the distro of the tribe tokens.. certainly is a strength.

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I have not looked lately either. However, the fact that I, and others, keep upvoting comments on a daily basis means that tokens are going into the hands of many others. What they do with the tokens once they are distributed is anyone's guess.

That said, there is a nice stake rate so hopefully the wealth is being spread out.

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That is something I tend to overlook from time to time, there is a far amount of comments being upvoted! and hopefully even more with time. This definitely contributes to an improved distribution. You know what, I'm going to make an effort to upvote more comments, loads of benefits.

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I agree with the liquidity crisis for the standard LEO market on HE but is it the same for wLEO? I thought that the liquidity pool for wLEO was enough to match the demand. If it isn't then we will definitely see a liquidity crisis for the new liquidity pool.

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There is liquidity in the wLEO pool but it is expensive and not easy to use.

Plus what I refer to is more in general. With talk of another couple liquidity pools opening up, plus the need for PoB on Leofinance, where are all those tokens going to come from. Also, we have roughly 1,000 monthly users, what happens if that 10x?

We are still rather small and the LEO tokens are not widely available.

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Yes I think it will take time and it will depend on whether or not the new supply of LEO tokens can match the demand. Either way, I think there will be a lack of LEO if a few more polls open up.

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Bitcoin was established as an electronic peer-to-peer transfer of value system. This was the original vision of Satoshi.
As we know, Bitcoin took on different properties over the years. With the influx of Wall Street, we see that speculation is the nature of the game now. Companies have little interest in using Bitcoin for transacting, they have dozens of ways to do that. They do like the fact that the price is likely to keep appreciating over time, making their holdings more valuable.

@taskmaster4450le I agree with you sir,that is one lovely thing which I admire about cryptos,they are adaptive to changes and developments,there is no certain manual to control cryptos.....

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it is very possible when new users can create leo aacount as easy as creating eth or other crypto wallet. Just need to register instantly no phone or social verification

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I heard in your Crypto Salad with Khal that the LEO token will be the backbone to the whole Leo ecosystem so while there are all these projects floating around and being built in addition, the core will still be the LEO token.

The inflation is an issue but not in the sense of it being too high, it's not high enough to accommodate all the new folks coming in! What is there? Only 1-2% available out of all supply? Crazy! Definitely going to be a liquidity issue but will be interested to see what happens after the snapshot

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The inflation is an issue but not in the sense of it being too high, it's not high enough to accommodate all the new folks coming in!

That is true. Even though it is over 25% right now, it is being eaten up very quickly. This is something that people miss about the inflation situation. Inflation is there to stimulate growth. Without it, at some point, growth stops.

Fortunately, there will be other tokens that can help to incentivize newer people. But for those going after LEO, it will be tough. There are about 50K tokens distributed a week, not a huge amount when you think about it in USD terms.

Consider if the ecosystem has 1 million people. That is not a lot of LEO for each person.

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Yeah I agree. Create the demand for the token, then it will get eaten up by Hungry Hippos (you ever have that game in the USA with those little plastic hippos eating those little plastic balls?!)

Even if the ecosystem has 10x the amount of people now, that will quickly suck up any liquidity too judging by the current state of play

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I love the way "or ease" in explaining the thing and make able to user to visualize a bigger picture.

For me Leo is both store and creation of value. Inflation is never bad if you can expand ,matching it's pace.

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Inflation is never bad if you can expand ,matching it's pace.

This year LEO is outpacing the rate of inflation by about 40x.

So you are right, it is not a problem at all.

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I very much agree with you we may end up with more chains being a store-of-value. If BTC will keep that value for the next decades to come, there is simply not enough BTC around to hold all the money people and companies want to store in a safe. But I sometimes think BTC will not survive two or three decades. Sure, BTC will be there, but after it'll hit some ATH in 1, 2 3 years from now, slowly its value will be lost. Its simply too expensive to transact, and too slow for anything else than store-of-value. Lightning network and all should make this chain faster, but they don't have the right marketing at their sides. Other chains will have the benefit over BTC wrt fast and may also inexpensive transaction costs.

Regarding transaction costs and your statement, nobody seems to want to sell LEO. Don't you think the recent successes of LEO (an increase of token value) and the low liquidity at LeoDEX and the large transaction costs when swapping at the LEO/ETH pool combined result in people buying LEO and holding on to it, for now?

Sure, I follow what you are saying, and maybe LEO can become a store of value, who knows. Interestingly, when LEO does become a store-of-value, BTC will be out of the game completely {LOL}. Since the reason why BTC is store-of-value because it is (or at least almost everybody thinks so) the safest chain around. This can't be said about HIVE and with HIVE about LEO. So, when HIVE and LEO become a store-of-value, the market-determined level of safety of BTC chain is not required to be a store-of-value.

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Not sure how things will unfold for BTC. I think it will always be around in some capacity because it is a very safe chain. That will hold value in addition to the capped amount. It will always, in my opinion, the mecca for bigger players, serving as that store for those who presently dominate the fiat world.

However, that will not be for everyone. Most will be drawn to where their activity takes them. The monetary component of building value, ie people buying it with fiat, is going to be reduced. Instead it is going to be based upon activity (data whatever). This is where Leo and some of the apps that are being developed could enter the picture.

Regarding transaction costs and your statement, nobody seems to want to sell LEO. Don't you think the recent successes of LEO (an increase of token value) and the low liquidity at LeoDEX and the large transaction costs when swapping at the LEO/ETH pool combined result in people buying LEO and holding on to it, for now?

I think this is reasonable and a good analysis as to why people are hodling LEO. However, the more that is added to the road map, the greater the likelihood of the excitement continuing. Thus, LEO as a transactional token could end up being completely wiped out. Just like the future idea of BTC being "Internet money" is passe in my opinion at this point.

We are already conditioned to hold those tokens for higher values in the future. And unlike ETH, LEO is not required to use for transactions (at least not at this point).

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You have some good points. BTC for the big players. Other chains for the mass. That I can see somehow happening. The danger to BTC is still, how safe a chain needs to be, even for the big players. Safety can be created in other ways as well, even for the big players. Like distributing funds over many different chains limiting theft of funds through hacks or whatever, to the small percentage of total value across all chains and wallets. In the end, I think what works out being the cheaper option under similar risks to loose some funds, will be the winner. Time will tell what that's gonna be.

As to LEO. As a second layer token, it is a token for rewarding the social network service and at the same time it can give owners power over the LEO distribution. Is this what you mean with the transaction function of LEO? I suppose any coin/token can change its purpose over time. In the end this is dynamic and based on what the 'community' - or better said - the stakeholders decide. Since the world is dynamic by nature, also the future of anything is dynamic by nature :)

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When we'll see the first Leo/cash ATM then we'll know we've made it :)

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I always found crypto ATMs odd.

The fact that people are tying them in to the digital world seems very short lived to me. We are heading more towards a digital/virtual world and we are seeing cash machines being set up.

Nothing something that I believe will be around in 5 years.

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If you want to turn your crypto into cash it is the simplest way to do so, until every supermarket or shop will start accepting it that is. I see it more like a medium term thing.

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everything will be "decided" after we see the progress of the products that are upcoming! Their success will basically show the future of leo and how fast that future will be achieved

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In the long run, I see Leo becoming a blockchain of its own. It is very possible. Just like hive it is creating an ecosystem on its own which is growing at a fast right.

I do agree with the notion that Leo will become a storage of value token. I personally do not see the need to sell my Leo token. It feels like a huge disservice. There is so much I can benefit from holding and contributing to the community. So at this point, I would rather stack those coins.

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Staking for the future is the only way to go as I can see it being a store of value with many things feeding off it. Each layer that is added is just feeding back to Leo and it wouldn't take many users to shoot it off when we know what the numbers could be potentially.

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This is a really good look into where LEO is heading. With LEOFI and project blank just around the corner, and the potential to really out do current DeFi projects due to superior infrastructure... things are looking good. There is even another layer to this onion that you didn't need to touch on... LEO is built on HIVE, what is good for LEO is also good for HIVE. The future is looking good in this space.

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I think all roads lead back to growth. Yes these systems seemingly carry a very high rate of inflation. Inflation is not the problem per se. Inflation without growth is the problem. So brand effect would play big into that. So my first thought would be get the wallets. My next thought would be get the wallets. However i've had the same conversation around the space for several years now that find many dangers in growth of these systems. So after careful examination i've found some of their views on growth to be true. Although growth is the answer for most things. Not sure it would be the answer necessarily here.

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I fully agree about this potential of LEO. HIVE delivered this in an even larger scale. About Quarter of my LEO were simply airdropped to me. Last week I made a post about having made over $19,000 on airdrops alone. This is several times my initial investment into STEEM (and later HIVE). We are not even done with the airdrops with 2 upcoming airdrops for LEO + @threespeak airdrop being among the biggest ones.

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I am not sure where I heard it. Is there a possibility that Leofinance will have its own blockchain? Or will it stick with Hive?

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I agree that people are holding and staking Leo like they Hodl and stack Bitcoin. I didn’t think of it as a store of value per se as it’s sole purpose, but I see what your getting to here.
Bitcoin is hodled due to speculation. I agree many people here hodl Leo for the same reason. I never saw it as a speculative store of value because of its utility, it is used to generate more Leo visa vie upvotes, content curation, etc
But the chart of WLEO and thus LEO shows a beautiful ascending channel and the speculative rewards of holding are apparent there. So I agree that Leo is a store of value.

I also think it may also facilitate utility one day like Ethereum does on the Hive-engine or it’s own DEX with DeFi strategies like liquidity pools an lending with Hive and Leo being acceptable deposits.

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