If you use Dash, Monero, ZCash you are considered criminal

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Like encryption, the US government sees anything that protects your privacy as criminal. A recent report released by the Department of Justice (DOJ) confirms their concerns and apprehension with privacy tokens.



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Most governments, especially the US government have been putting a lot of time and money into being able to watch and track blockchain technology for criminal, tax, and control reasons. They are a sleeping giant in what many consider the new wild west.

Every time I hear the government claim crypto is used for criminal activity I think to myself how often the US Dollar is used for criminal activity.

We live in a world where privacy is critical to our safety. Everything is online right now and without security in the form of encryption and privacy nothing will be safe and we would be better off storing money under our mattress.

Whenever I hear about weakening encryption and adding back doors to things I think of this cartoon.


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My biggest fear isn't the government, it is everyone else who will take advantage of those exploits and back doors. The government has had numerous hacks on their own infrastructure, around the same time they were trying to get a back door in Apple devices their own NSA hacker catalog was leaked online and numerous if their software tools were leaked as well.

Just right now the government is pushing a bill disguised as a protection against child abuse that includes laws to weakening and criminalize encryption and privacy. If these systems get put in place, you won't even be able to safely use a credit card online without putting yourself at risk.

What scares me is there is absolutely no way to protect yourself from a world of no encryption and privacy.


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You know it’s only “legal” when they do it.

File crypto under the same category as select fire weapons and collecting rainwater.

The USA and the UK are the worst offenders in the West when it comes to the willingness of governments to weaken the privacy of their citizenry. The German-speaking world is much better.

It won't do any good for governments to mandate the delisting of privacy coins from exchanges. Decentralized exchanges will be left. If you want to be less traceable, you can swap your coins for a privacy coin on a DEX and then do a transfer and then swap back to a non-privacy coin.

Actually Australia is even worse.

I wouldn't doubt this, from everything I read Australia comes off as one of the most oppressive countries in the west. I think this is due to geography and its citizens idolizing the US, in unhealthy ways, I once heard an Aussie causally refer to a black Australian as an African American, which is just weird.

Yes, its unfortunately true that Australia is leading the "democratic" world in repressing liberty and freedom. Australian citizens don't have the most basic rights to enter and leave their own country.
In Victoria they are under the longest, most repressive and most violently enforced lockdown in the world, with a number of COVID cases that is tiny (15 a day) by standards elsewhere.
They have passed legislation enforcing backdoors on encrypted communications.
They have repressed constitutionally protected freedom of movement between states and freedom of political discourse for months.

I've posted more about this here.

The EU have launched an attack on encryption as well. More to come probably in next few days.

Germany is a funny country when it comes to privacy. Their secret service is just as good as the NSA and GCHQ. Germany was even among the first nations to oblige ISPs to track client logins.

But somehow there's that belief that privacy is part of the modern DNA of the nation and thus agencies will not use all that data they have access to, at least not without a valid warrant.

I always loved how Germany dealt with (online) privacy and the CCC (and also Heise and Golem) are pretty legendary in their fight for the protection of privacy. But come 2020 the belief also feels rather naive.

Germany was even among the first nations to oblige ISPs to track client logins.

If I'm not mistaken, ISPs have to do that in the entire EU.

UK is scary, I thought the US was bad until I saw some of the shit the UK is doing.

The US has a lot resources to throw at electronic surveillance. What the UK lacks in resources it compensates with a nastier and more invasive attitude. To counterweigh all the imperialistic BS, the US has an ethos of individualism and freedom. The UK is culturally different.

Oy! You got a license for the telly?

I only saw the entry photo and was looking for a post about Germany given you used Munich / Bavarian police entry visuals lol.

Good thing, here I am not guilty at all, have none of these tokens (or cryptos).

People of the government, by the government, and for the government

i saw a couple wearing masks, on a Sunday afternoon, in an empty street... and .....that's precisely what I thought.

Rule by force is the disease, as long as it ok to control them with violence, it will be ok to control you with violence, too.

Not sure if write this is the right way. Only what is benefit for their own it always getting people to the back door too.

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The government wants control over everything. Anything they can't see or access they deem criminal.

Yes, the reason is crime control. Crime exist mostly is due to lack of transparency, fair and most important 'love' towards.

What scares me is there is absolutely no way to protect yourself from a world of no encryption and privacy.

Don't be scared.

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What about other crypto that also obfuscates transactions?
This seems half-assed and like the decision was made by people who don't actually understand what they're doing. Well, that last part is just politics I guess.

Oh well, one day I suppose anyone engaging in crypto will be considered a criminal, at least that seems to be how the media wants it to be considering how they've painted it over the years.

I have my popcorn ready and I sure am happy to live in a country that, at least for the time being, can't enforce poopoo laws like this.

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The question remains who is going to regulate the regulator.
Shut down one token and 30 more will be created. It’s an act of futility. Not to mention I think the fat kid in NK is funded by the Yuan.

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I caught that DoJ article. :vomit: You bring up a good point my wife and regularly discuss. Since before the invention of fiat, there's been a medium of exchange to complete heinous, criminal, and unspeakable acts. Nothing has changed, criminals are doing what criminals do but now that it isn't being entirely done by a government controlled currency, it's 'bad.'

What I meant was.. some things never change.

You just convinced me to get some more Monero!

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Not surprised at all, the role of government in Capitalism is far greater than it should be. We needed leverage against such structure and the Governments don't like it, neither they should.

The funniest thing of all is the fact that people are aware of what's going on and yet, they don't give a shit. Fun times ahead, though.

Not surprised at all, the role of government in Capitalism is far greater than it should be. We needed leverage against such structure and the Governments don't like it, neither they should.

The funniest thing of all is the fact that people are aware of what's going on and yet, they don't give a shit. Fun times ahead, though.

What is the name of this report? No Source quoted on btc peers.

The government is now putting pressure on social media sites which is equivalent to blackmail. If we do not give them a back door to spy on everyone, they will hold us accountable for every single word written on the site. This type of pressure itself would land a civilian in prison.

Privacy: Bad for us mundanes, essential for the State. If it weren't for double standards, governments would have no standards at all.


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