What is your stance on flags ?
Some people flag daily same people to 0$
Some people flag occasionally based on posts
Some people flag only posts over XX amounts.
Some people flag not using their power but using delegation bots that were made for upvotes.
What is your opinion on such stances?
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I'm against any kind of flagging.
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Says the big self-voter :)
To be honest,
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With the practice - "can You
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My stand - no downvote. And downvote should be taken away at blockchain level. It is censorship by powerful on week.
No, it is rewards distribution. Note that @kingscrown is quite happy to downvote people who dare to take away his self-vote rewards.
No, you are completely 100% wrong. Nobody is removing the post from the blockchain. It's called consensus... upvotes - minus - downvotes - equals - Community Consensus
It's called a blockchain...
My vote power 10 and your vote power 100. If u disagree, then u suppress the visibility of my post by downvote. And red flags on my profile and posts make me look a criminal, declared by powerfuls as in the case of state power.
Wow that is taking it to the next level.
All it takes is the click of a button and... ta-da it's back. Don't take a downvote so dang personal. Most people don't downvote just to downvote, most likely there is some sort of abuse behind it. Yes there are a few that get wild with the downvotes. People will be people. And people do weird stuff.
I kind of agree with @praheshtyagi.
In most cases I've researched where users ask to have a downvote removed from a downvoter willing to hear them, I find similar instances of escalated petty conflict...
Usually the person who was downvoted feels attacked personally. Often they take the matter very seriously and wants to redeem themselves by taking corrective action. They don't want to continue receiving downvotes and want to restore their reputation. They are willing to humble themselves by politely asking for help or forgiveness.
The person who flagged them either acts responsibly and states their reason and is willing to forgive if certain corrective measures are taking, or...
They make fun of the person downvoted with insults ("you are a liar", "plagiarist", "get over it", etc.) and sometimes retaliate with more damage by throwing additional downvotes, creating a downvote trail, or adding to a permanent blacklist.
Sometimes the people downvoted have no understanding of how to demonstrate their content is original content, and are simply sharing content like they always have done in the past from their various alternative social media accounts.
Many people choose to protect their blockchain anonymity, for fear of being persecuted in their home country. To unmask their identity for the sake or proving authorship of a snap photo is not worth the risk of danger that could cause their household.
They post something random on Hive, and suddenly hostile downvotes fly in. There is not always a clear means to remove downvotes and blacklists easily. The user is more likely to rage quit or decide this blockchain business is just a pipe dream that will never work with all of these horrible downvotes coming in like flies.
Downvotes have room for improvement, just as much as the people who receive them on a regular basis. It is very disgraceful when downvotes are given without providing fair comments and options to have them removed. I am definitely on the fridge of users who feel like the blockchain needs a better downvote solution to make it less socially alienating.
I'll keep speaking my opinion when I find people discussing it. Maybe more people will realize downvotes have a more lasting impact than the penny worth it shows on face value.
Is that a JoJo reference?
that's the most retarded yet hilarious thing i have read in a while. thank you.
I try.
the week or the month?
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They're not flags, they're downvotes. Necessary part of the system. Stakeholders in Hive are generously allowing themselves to be inflated for the purpose of driving growth. If those stakeholders disagree with the pending reward on a post or comment, it's their right to modify it to the degree their stake allows them to.
I think downvotes are important you can’t have upvotes and have no way to disagree besides abstaining I think that it will find its equalibrium eventually but it’s a vital part of the ecosystem
I think that those that don’t like downvotes have every right to use a chain that agrees with their sentiments! I’ve heard Blurt won’t have it so I assume most people who don’t like downvotes will move there
We need downvotes to deal with self-voters like you. It is a way to fix the rewards distribution. Otherwise every whale could just milk the system. It is part of the design of Steem/Hive. Have you read the part of the white paper about the crab bucket? Of course you can use them to try and intimidate people into submission, as you do, but that will not always work. We are many and you are few.
To be honest, I have received a lot of downvotes and I have given too, just like upvotes, downvotes is necessary and it is part and parcel of the blockchain.
Downvotes are important and a very vital part of the system. Many users (perhaps even the majority) are afraid of them though, as downvotes can be extremely hurtful and cause severe pain in various ways. On an individual level.
Some people upvote themselves and their alt accounts with paid for delegation in order to milk the system....
If I were designing a system, I would create a robust system of flags. I would concentrate on concerns like spam, plagiarism, identity theft and other forms of abuse. I might also have positive flags for truly creative content. My system would probably apply the flags at the account level and not an individual post level.
As another post mentioned, Hive uses downvotes and not flags.
The people who read the whitepaper say that the downvotes are about awards distribution. It is a tool to help protect the rewards pool from excessive self-voting, vote selling, voting circles and bots.
I admit. I side with the people who use the downvotes as designed. The Hive rewards pool is relatively small. Abuse of the rewards pool destroys the ability of the platform to fund content as the designers of the blockchain had intended.
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You have been milking the system with shit posts and vote trading for years. It’s too bad it took this long.
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My opinion is more people are abusing downvotes than acting responsibly. Others might argue it equalizes things out to everyone's benefit in the reward pool, and we have successfully removed lots of the spam that used to exist frequently. I would have to agree with that.
The damage downvotes do to new/small users is somewhat unforgivable in my opinion. Many people get upset and quite when they feel they have been downvoted unfairly. They would be correct when they tell others that downvote trolls and bots exist on this blockchain for no good purpose other than to annoy people.
The fact that downvote rings exist has always worried me. They form their own rules for downvoting. Often they do not present any method to have downvotes removed. They create downvote blacklists with no options to be removed. If they have a public presence on discord or in a community, there is no guarentee users will be treated fairly when defending their actions against their downvote accusers. Some of the downvote rings are able to pool profits to reward their members for downvoting. This is a crisis for conscience. Police do not get paid on commission.
That being said, I am happy we have downvotes and I am very glad for the many people who use of downvotes frequently and fairly. There are a few honorable downvote communities extremely skilled at not only removing clear garbage and plagiarism, but also helping to upvote posts that have been subject to downvote abuse from whales and flag trails.
I would be in favor up solutions to improve the blockchain to prevent exploiting the downvotes for pointless, hateful, and harmful vengeance vendettas. I would like to encourage more of the downvote communities to talk about solutions. Witnesses and blockchain developers may be able to improve downvotes so they are less socially alienating.