Does your political affiliation matter when it comes to rewards?
I've had my head in the sand long enough on this issue and it's time somebody spoke out...
The moment I revealed myself to be a right leaning conservative
I lost support on this platform. People may want to pretend it's for other reasons but it seems clear as day to me.
I've worked as being a beacon to conservatives around here for a hot minute but it seems that the truth can understood simply by demographics of dominant stakes and their voting patterns.
If you want to make money here, conform to the status quo and that is primarily left leaning libertarianism. I'm sitting in enough liquid stake to maybe double my voting influence but the fact of the matter is I am no longer in the club.
Certain individuals have made this abundantly clear yet I have been sparring with myself to move forward with the vision I once had.
It seems these ideas represent a futility at times because my worldview seems to preclude my overall success. Don't expect me to doctor who I am however.
Tell me one prominent conservative in the "inner hive"
It's ok. I'll wait.
I've considered the possibility that disparate worldviews can exists in parallel when working together to bring others to this tech but I am considering this sentiment to be misguided.
Misguided because there are less voters that would vote content contrary to their own worldview above the convergent curve. It's simple HF22 mathematics that positions any minority viewpoint to take the L due to inflation.
That's ok as it should be this way
If there is a dominant ideology among stakeholders, it does not behoove you to go against the grain. It is not an advantage to be contrarian to the status quo.
Don't mistake my words
I am not saying to up and quit but I am saying that playing the reward pool game if you are honest in your view that does not resonate with the majority is a game where you will inevitably be poised to lose. (Instead take advantage of other aspects like censorship resistance)
Smart people don't play to lose
That is why I am telling you this in all earnest. If your views flush with 5he consensus here, carry on and appeal to such views as is profitable.
But if you are like me and belong to fringe ideological demographics
Think deeply about the game and all it's dynamics.
Don't let yourself be the greater fool in an ecosystem that you may not be able to thrive.
This is not bearish sentiment concerning the tech but moreso concerning the people and the meta game that we are all involved when we post here.
I don't care for am inner hive. In fact I believe the secret slack should be abolished.
Spare OPSEC during the Haejin wars, my discord server have been open to any user that wanted to make a difference.
It seems things have changed once we split to hive and now the vibes of exclusivity are the norm which are antithetical to my person.
Are you in favor of kicking all the culturally incompatible users off HIVE?
Are you telling me that's an option? Jk
That's the wonderful thing about censorship resistance digital spaces. They facilitate the free exchange of ideas without having to worry about violent repercussions one could face expressing those ideas in person.
We see the digital consequences all too often across legacy social media as well as physical consequences IRL.
Example:
https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2020/10/18/antifa-knocks-out-black-mans-teeth-for-holding-free-speech-rally-while-calling-him-n-word/amp/
There doesn't seem to be a very high-barrier-to-entry for "antifa" "membership" (or name-calling).
And if you're really mostly concerned about physical attacks from "the culturally incompatible" hoards, data indicates that the "outsiders" are much more likely to be victims of violent crime than they are to be perpetrators of violent crime.
Hummm...couldn't be because they are afraid to call the police on their perpetrators since they themselves could face potential consequences.
In many cases, distrust of the "local authorities" is warranted.
This is the nature of humans. It is unfortunate but typical. Those who have the power tend to consolidate it within themselves and refuse to allow others in. We don't have the knowledge, expertise, wealth, blah blah blah, so we get left out. I've learned to just do my thing and not expect to change anything. We are in a microcosm of our society and it is a bit disgusting really especially given the incredibly low usage of the chain.
I hear ya man and agree 100%. All the innovative and revolutionary technology in the world yet we remain stuck in the languishing patterns of old. Seems quite ironic.
Tell me one prominent conservative in the "inner hive"
This issue goes far deeper than you pointed out, imo.
The cultural zeitgeist is gonna change massively over this next year or three, and apart from overtones of collectivism with the name, hive - if 'the ideological powers that be' on here, don't noticeably shift - other platforms that do actively support all perspectives, will overtake it..
(I've been hammering on for 3 years now).
It might very well turnout to be a ' stay woke, token go broke, kinda thing..'
I'm not a 'classic conservative' - or have any other political affiliation, by any means.
I'm for truth, wherever that lies.(admittedly many more conservative ideas are far more logical than insane leftism. lol)
lol, you think that up before or after your first cup of joe for the day.
it must have been after the caffeine....
lol
I'm a centralist, or a fence sitter if you will, I met a few conservatives on Hive. Left and right, we have reasonable people and unreasonable people.
In my opinion populism is the real problem.
Haha, rational thinking and compromises are bad.
The "left" vs "right" vs "center" seems to be a gross oversimplification.
since when are libertarians left?
imho left and right were just founded to divide people..
politics in general is just a dividing game..
and Nazis and Communists were both socialists. just saying.
have a great day :)
Not sure how this definition flushes with the folks here as I would suggest they may be more AnCaps with liberal tendencies whereas full blown lib left is against capitalism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism
I think one of the major points of divergence for me may be nationalism vs globalism. It seems that many people who are of significant affluence and thus insulated from the troubles that result from globalist policies specifically mass immigration / open borders whereas I like to consider myself closer to the impact.
We don't live in a gated community. My child goes to public school (I would prefer she did not tbh but she has special needs that they have programs) so the impact of lofty globalistic ideals in practice would generally have a greater impact.
It's often the case that these individuals, the bleeding hearts, do not think far ahead enough to acknowledge the long term affect of the mass importation of individuals whose culture is incompatible with the way of life for which our forefathers fought.
The lying media has long maligned people who think in such pragmatic terms as being racist rather than concede to the inferences that can be drawn from statistical data regarding demographics.
They don't want people awakened to the truth, race realism and how it ties into the process of subverting a nation. They would rather we think in an egalitarian fantasy land whilst chaos brews on the horizon.
When we can all plainly see big tech, the MSM and global elites orchestrating to move us in a certain direction, it just may be time to push ths brakes...
While we still have the power to do so.
Yeah, just imagine what would happen if we let droves of those dirty Italians and Irish into the USA.
I mean, Italians and Irish are obviously genetically inferior, they're always yelling about this and that and can't control their emotions.
You are being ridiculous, it's far from the real issues involved.
What do you consider "culturally incompatible"?
In recent years complaints of having to be "forced" to take time off from work because the holiday is considered a national holiday that they do not celebrate so why should they be forced to have time off.
The complaints in recent years over merely saying or greeting someone saying "Merry Christmas" vs "Happy Holidays" so they aren't offended.
That goes for putting up signs and displays with Merry Christmas vs Happy Holidays.
Going out on main through ways and seeing less and less traditional Christmas decorations in shops so as not to offend anybody.
Are you mad about the Christians?
Or are you mad about the Atheists?
Which ones do you believe are "culturally incompatible"?
It's not Atheist complaining about having to take time off as opposed to those who hold another deity in a higher regard, they do not like to partake in the observance.
I am not religious but I have no problem with saying "Merry Christmas" and I don't place any emphasis that the words are necessarily structured to the birth of Jesus alone.
If people, who, like myself don't place and/or accept a necessary religious link could just stop and observe the beauty associated with Christmas, the lights, the smell of fresh pine, baked goods and good home cooked meals that bring family together the world could learn to, like myself, maneuver around those who do hold it as religious observance.
CANCEL CULTURE
Agreed.
Agreed again. I think a lot of the disenfranchised with mass immigration isn't just the economic impact to expected lower incomes but the demands that our own cultural heritages change so they don't feel offended by their exhibition.
You have a great day and weekend ad well!
You probably know that I lean to the left, but I am not an all-out socialist (a dirty word in some places). Very few people are as most of us like some freedom to own stuff and not be totally controlled by the state. This doesn't mean we can't be friends as we may have more in common than what divides us. There are forces at work trying to polarise society for their own ends, but most of us are actually somewhere in the middle politically.
I tend to think that being at the extreme end of anything is bad as it gives you little room for compromise.
I see a range of political views here and that's fine. What you do see is unlikely to be representative of what the general population thinks as moderates are less likely to speak out.
Hive can be seen as a capitalist playground to gain personal wealth as well as a tool to distribute it. As long as we can achieve some balance between those it has a chance of persisting.
There may be some degree of diversity of thought at the lower echelons but when we ascend to the higher echelons of power, I suspect that there is an ideological convergence and greater uniformity.
Yes, I am aware you are left leaning and, unfortunately, I do believe these inclinations result in a lack of foresight of future consequence of things like mass immigration.
Certain worldviews are just unable to be reconciled and, yes, many are on the extreme end of the spectrum such as Wahhabism or NeoNazism.
But even from extreme ideology there may yet be ideas of merit (such as traditional family structures for the promotion of societal harmony) while some may be considered barbaric or antiquated.
Now, I understand there were indeed processes involved in your arrival at political conclusions which I do not suggest are devoid of reason or wisdom. This comment in and of itself isn't intended to be an exhaustive treatise against any worldview of which I myself do not possess but, to illustrate a more high level view of my anthropological views, I will use an analogy of a Zoo.
It proceeds from common sense that, if we desire the creatures in a zoo to survive, some must be kept separate. We would not keep hyena and lions in the same enclosure. Think of the enclosures as national borders and this rationale is why I am such a dogged nationalist and oppose globalism so heartily.
However cruel or oppressive I may find certain cultures, I do not wish to take these ways of life away from any group. In that same token, I do not wish for the way of life of my ancestors, the Constitutional Republic, to be subverted be it intentional or otherwise. At it's core, this is a live and let live doctrine but also one that acknowledges that demographics are destiny.
I do believe that it isn't merely the Constitutional Republic of my nation that is being worked against but more broadly it is the West that has been in the process of being subdued and it seems that to some extent has been achieved through the guise of egalitarianism.
Anyways, for sharing your comment and giving me a glimpse into your thoughts. Yes, Hive does function as a playground of sorts but I just long for greater balance. You showed me that, even though we disagree on some level, you were still willing to curate. To vote something that we may disagree with ideologically but still acknowledging the sweat equity. I do find that to be exceptional and wished there were more people of that inclination here.
Not sure the zoo analogy holds up as people of different cultures are not inherently enemies. But I'm sure the native Americans have some different ideas on migration to you. It can be a matter of perspective. Working to reduce the reasons for mass migration may be more productive than just putting up walls. If the climate continues to change (for whatever reasons) it could get a lot worse.
I grew up in a multicultural environment with West Indians, Indians, Pakistanis, Italians, Poles and white 'British' kids were a minority at my schools. It was not such a problem. The problems can be more with people who try to create division and who fear difference.
The divisive people can come from any of the cultures, but they are usually a minority. Everyone else just wants to get on with living their life.
I have seen divisive elements on Hive who may talk about 'the Koreans' or 'the Malaysians'. I don't thinking lumping people like that is always valid (as with most generalisations).
Balance can be a matter of opinion. Maybe we should work more on finding common ground.
!ENGAGE 50
Wishful thinking is not sound public policy.
ENGAGEtokens.I see quite the mix on here. It doesn't affect my voting in the slightest. I vote for what I like. Some accounts that don't get voted often look for reasons outwith themselves without looking inward.
But hey, it's a grand game and it only stops being so when people start thinking votes and rewards over engagement.
I am surprised we do not see more people from 'the right' as they tend to be the ones who get banned elsewhere. I don't generally downvote opinions, but I might if it's spreading hatred.
I reckon that the range of opinions you see online does not reflect the general populace as it is likely to be the fringes who post more.
Yeah, online doesn't reflect the general populace, online it's the fringey ones that get a bit frothy at the mouth. I am the same, I wouldn't downvote over a difference of opinion but I do for hate/inciting hate and of course misleading stuff that can be harmful like antivaxxers and covid nonsense. But not all the time, I'm not a monster :0D
Define conservative. Unless you mean these guys.
versus
I don't really know if this is really tell tale of being a conservative but could be an indication. 🤔
I do see some redpilled sentiment in Twitter from a couple of them. Think I would likely fall more into the Paleoconservative category myself which seems to be the case with a number among the rising AmericaFirst movement.
It would be nice to see more paleocons on Hive
I take this as a personal mission!
I'm moving to get a Mid West Libertarian SuperPAC up to speed on keeping Keys say for Social Media Comms. This article sets the stage for an important move with the right optics in place. We're not coming here to make money... we're securing our free speech. And if there be Beasties here that wish to stop that speech then best we know who they are ahead of time.
HIVE.ON!
TRUMPWINS/BIDENWINS (as well as TRPY/TRPN) is basically gambling. So it's more about who you think will win rather than who you want to win. At least theoretically.
HIVE.D!
Brilliant piece. I use HIVE for Sci Fi and with full sarcasm, we all know scifi has got nothing to do with politics! But I write for a specific audience and was never looking for the fake rewards from the Ninja mining Libtards that started this cursed chain : /
I thought HIVE was comprised of 99.99% ANARCHIST LIBERTARIANS.
Don't "feel like an outcast", start your own club.
Yay!
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You see sweetie there's a trick to all this, when out swinging with all these lefties you have to keep that right foot firmly grounded, that way you stay foot loose and fancy free....
I think it's awesome that you're willing to be you, no matter what :)