Open Letter To Steem Community

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Hello Steem Community!

With so much happening in Steem right out the gates for me and everyone at Tron and Steemit Inc, such as the launch of Communities and a soft fork 22.2 we weren’t expecting, I feel it is important to show you guys I am here and ready to begin building with you. Our team, the Tron folks and Steemit Inc together, are an amazing group of talented people and they are working hard behind the scenes to get our plans together after the acquisition process, which always leaves some open ended questions. It is my plan now to make sure we begin communicating with the Steem community and make sure we are a positive force in making Steem and Steemit 2.0 great.

We have so much to work to do to make Steemit.com the power that it really can be. And there are many ways we can get it there, from bridging TRX, TRC10’s and TRC20’s into Communities to marketing and growing Steemit.com. From invitations and referrals to simpler and instant signups. From new listings of STEEM on ALL the greatest exchanges to integrations in critical hardware products. From bringing more influencers to the community and creating more content. There is so much I still want to give you from documenting and marketing my vision for steemit.com to connecting with the passionate folks here in this community. Steemit team is also regrouping together in San Francisco this coming week, meeting up with the TRON’s developer community teams to discuss on the executable plans.

As such I want to make sure that together the team and community are a positive part of the communications that help to grow this ecosystem, and for that I would like to invite a group of our top 50 Witnesses to our first STEEMit 2.0 Town Hall, which we will hold tentatively on March 6th, 2020 (meeting logistics to follow). At this meeting I am hoping to hear from many Steemian Witness voices to learn and understand how they think we can grow Steem together, and how Steemit Inc can communicate with the witnesses on a regular basis. During the days leading up, I think we can post more information about this event with the help of any community members who tend to run town halls, and they will help make sure we are super effective. Please let us know who we should connect with in the comments! :)



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Thank you Justin for the very prompt feedback to the Steem community. Sounds very engaging and I look forward to seeing something greater on both Steem and Tron with upcoming Tron involvement with Steemit Inc. & Steem Community rather than a big ugly noise to the crypto space.

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Justin can I come visit the San Francisco office for a tour and to meet some Tron employees? I was there yesterday but I would like to come back to create a cool post with some good photo ops. From a long time Steemian, -@goldmatters

https://steemit.com/steemit/@goldmatters/steemian-at-the-tron-foundation-in-san-francisco

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Nice, I'll have to check that post out!!!!

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I really appreciate the support man, thank you!

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Are you local to the area? @goldmatters

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Yes, I could easily make it back to the office on pretty short notice

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Nice, I'm from Brentwood myself.

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Silly me.. I thought you are a bot 😂 i often meet you on splinterlands😁 gotta check the post

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I would expand that beyond top 50.. As a former top 20 witness sitting around 70 at the moment would like to be involved as well. Sucks that we had to pull out the nuclear option in order to establish a concise communication between you Justin and the witness community.

Will find a way to be a part of this chat somehow though.

This v0.22.2 soft fork is almost entirely the fault of the FUD that has been flying around. If communications were clear from the get go I do not see that this would have happened how it has.

Glad to finally see some communications open up though. Welcome to STEEM.

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This option was so far from nuclear. The entire reason for the soft fork was to defend against any possible threat and enable both sides to be able to approach friendly negotiations. I repeat, this was NOT a nuclear option.

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If we'd done this when Ned was still running Steemit Inc this would have been viewed as the nuclear option. (In my opinion)

With Justin running Steemit Inc I still consider this the nuclear option, however it has opened up communication channels to it's far less detrimental than it could have been.

What do you consider the option above this, that you would consider the nuclear option? Honestly interested to hear your thoughts on this.

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A hardfork that changed the account state and forcefully moved or nullified the stake.

Surely you see there are escalations that can happen from here right? I purposefully worked VERY hard to avoid the nuclear option. That is something that is bothering me about the community acting like this was some rash decision.

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Ah yeah. Ok. that clarifies it for me. Thanks for the reply.

Not downplaying the hours you've put in, in order to make this happen, good work netuoso!

The community feels like they were blind sided, even though I have spent a ton of time telling them that this was on the horizon.. Oh well, I think now that they see that communications are being opened up they are less fearful.

Cheers man!

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Does this soft fork effect any of us in any way?

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Nope. Users will be unaffected by this soft fork. :)

No worries.

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Is being a witness the same as like running a website? I know it is different but when you run a Steem node, does the node have to be online 24/7 or what happens if you lose Internet connection as a witness? I think it should work more like Bit Torrent if it doesn't already.

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Running a STEEM witness node isn't really similar to running a website.

Node must be online 24/7. If you lose internet connection then you will be unable to produce a STEEM block when you a scheduled to.

It is p2p in a sense.

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Would you compare a Steem witness node to Bitcoin mining, to Bit Torrent seeding, or to other things?

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Yes and no.

Bitcoin mining anyone can do with the right hardware.
When running a STEEM witness you need community votes in order to be allowed to produce blocks. All witnesses do is collect operations such as votes and transfers and put them into a block, every 3 seconds.

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Voting Process:

I understand that a witness has to go through the voting process to become a witness in the first place. I understand how blockchain works, the process and operation of submitting transactions to the blocks every 3 seconds like you said, and I understand that is not how Bit Torrent, etc, works, specifically, that they are technically different in how they work.

Hybrid

But why not a hybrid approach? I would suggest having the witnesses as the core of Steem. On top of that, I would try to utilize something like IPFS, like seeding, like whatever Bitchute uses, in decentralizing and distributing the data of the Steem blockchain across the world wide web. My objective is simply in trying to decentralize as much of how Steem works as possible.

Option

At the very least, I would try to make it an option and not a requirement. I guess what I'm getting at is concerning platforms or apps or dapps that are built on Steem and not Steem itself. So, I guess I am mostly talking about how Steemit.com, Busy.org, Partiko, and other Steem apps work. I don't know how the different apps work specifically. But I would, assuming that they are not already, find ways to decentralize how the apps work in distributing data across the web to limit centralization. In doing so, people should be paid in helping in that process via things like Bit Torrent seeding and people should be paid, compensated, in Steem, in money, in cryptocurrencies, etc, or whatever, for helping in sharing the load. So, perhaps, they can't or shouldn't be the witnesses. I understand that.

Mining, Seeding

But I would argue and say that more people could seed or mine or help distribute Steem around the Internet via IPFS, P2P, and/or as many different things as possible. Perhaps what I am talking about does not have to be directly connected to Steem itself and be done indirectly or separate from Steem. I've heard that there are cryptocurrency-like Bit Torrent projects out there that does or will attempt at compensating the seeders via cryptocurrencies. I'm talking about Internet 3.0 which means the attempts at decentralizing the Internet. For example, there is one project called Substratum. And there are others as well.

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We had POW mining in the beginning.

All STEEM happens to be is a decentralized database. However the majority of the blocks are created by the top 20 witnesses voted by the community.

I'm not against what you are saying here.. However as it sits I don't see it happening any time soon as would be regarded as taking a step backwards.

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So, Steem had proof of works (POW) mining. So, now it is proof of brains or what is it right now? What kind of mining would you prefer and how many kinds of mining are there? I believe there are around 5 different kinds. I am still not totally sure which I would prefer. Yeah, I agree that many of these things may not change any time sooner, perhaps. I am simply here to encourage people to talk about making things better, assuming it is even possible to improve the system. But not to say that I am right about what I say. I am only trying to suggest ideas that might help. But I could be wrong concerning the specific details.

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Yeah, I get what you are saying.

Right now we have value subjective voting that does the "mining" / post rewards or whatever you want to call it.. Plus the witnesses that facilitate this.

Not sure we'll ever see POW mining come back.

No worries, It is certainly not the easiest crypto to get your hands on unless you're a highly supported witness, a well voted blogger or someone who can afford to buy STEEM.

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What are the rules? In order to be a witness, first you have to be running a Steem node and secondly, you have to get a certain amount of votes? How many votes would be the minimum required?

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The strength of the votes you receieve dictate how high your rank is, and how many blocks a day your server can create.

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Here is a question. Does a witness earn Steem for mining blocks? I'm assuming that blocks are mined like Bitcoin blocks are mined by miners. I don't want to say Bitcoin and Steem are identical but this is my comparison. If I'm accurate, then that makes sense and I would prefer that over how Bitcoin does it I think.

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Top 20 witnesses get 0.21 STEEM per a block. Backup witnesses get ~1.2 STEEM per a block.

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This might be one of the advantages Steem has over Bitcoin. I wish Tron the best of luck. Things are getting better for Steemit. My fingers are crossed.

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Sucks that we had to pull out the nuclear option in order to establish a concise communication between you Justin and the witness community.

This was not the nuclear option. This was we can't really fork in case we can't cash in our witness payoffs.

Without a solution that would effect every user equally, this is attempted robbery!

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Not sure what to say about it.

We were in danger of being absorbed and having FUD shit all over us from Justin Sun.. At least now he's willing to sit down and communicate with us, rather than leave us all wondering if STEEM has a future.

Said from the very start that this would likely result in a fork.. It did.
This could still go very badly for STEEM, I don't know what the future holds.

Guess we'll see when we get to meet with Justin Sun..

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What are you talking about? There will just be a meeting, the bigger accounts and witnesses will be satisfied they will get a good deal and Justin will then do whatever he wants. And fuck the rest of the people, just like in real life with politicians. And I am not against Justin Sun, this has never been decentralized, just a small group of people have always held the power so for most of us there will not be much change and anyway we don't really have that much to lose.

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We're just taking the steps necessary to not be absorbed into TRON. He could just give us lip service and then do whatever the fuck he wants.. True.

The DPOS nature of STEEM makes it that only a small number of people have control over running the code that runs the blockchain... It sucks but that is how it is.

We have the entire chain to lose if this goes bad... I don't know about you, but I don't want STEEM to get absorbed by TRON then have to pay to make a post or comment or transfer..

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We could have come up with a multitude of solutions. That 51% of all witnesses must employ a HF for it to become recognised like most PoW chains. Just throwing that out there... yet there would have to be countless changes that could be made to thwart Sun while at the same time thwart other whales. Thwart everyone equally. This is extortion and looks like ETH classic from here.

P.S. Dropped all support of witnesses which installed 22.2 so you understand my withdrawing your vote. My choice affected every witness not just you.

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Only 17 of the top 20 witnesses need to run a new version for the chain to switch over to it.

The back-up witnesses such as myself do not really make much of a difference in what version we run.

This isn't about thwarting whales at all.. This isn't even about thwarting Justin Sun..

This is literally about keeping the STEEM blockchain from being shut down and rolled into the TRON blockchain.. As Justin Sun stated he was going to do initially. So unless you're down with STEEM being shut down, and being moved to TRON, and being charged transaction fees on all operations such as comments, posts, transfers, etc etc.. This is what had to be done. Does it suck? Fucking rights it does, but with Ned selling us out to someone who wanted to dissolve STEEM as we know it, this was basically the only way to ensure that it wouldn't happen.

ETH classic was to reverse a hack due to shitty coding, our fork is to save the blockchain itself.. Not sure how you can compare the two.

I understand where you're coming from with your statements, but you're looking at it from angles that weren't even considered when we rolled this out.

We're trying to protect STEEM, Not fuck people over. Temporarily forking out one persons access to ensure the rest of us still have STEEM to gather around is what we are doing here.. :/

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Only 17 of the top 20 witnesses need to run a new version for the chain to switch over to it.

My off the top of my head suggestion was to imply that 51% of all registered witnesses be required to institute a HF. That way not only the top 20 would have that decision and there would be too many witnesses for a whale to control like in the case of the present system. This was just an off the cuff suggestion of how we could look for a generic solution that would affect all accounts so as to not simply targeting one.

This is literally about keeping the STEEM blockchain from being shut down and rolled into the TRON blockchain.

If that would have been the lesson of DPoS then we should have learned from it and progress towards a REAL Hard Fork. Tell Mr. Sun that. Tell the community that and do it if he used his stake to influence witness voting.

The Computer Scientist in me would suggest the following start up for the new model...

  • Start a new chain with all current accounts starting at 500 SPs.
  • Bring back miners that STEEM originally accommodated.
  • Require 51% of all registered witnesses to agree to new HFs.

The loss of my Dolphin status would be excepted by me for this second kick at the can. But that's not going to happen. Too much vested interests and not a prevalence of scientific curiosity. So the best solution, in my opinion, would have been one that affected all users while hampering/thwarting/hoodwinking Mr. Sun as well.

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Hi, are you able to provide a link where he is saying

is literally about keeping the STEEM blockchain from being shut down and rolled into the TRON blockchain.. As Justin Sun stated he was going to do initially

I heard other things and dont mind challenging my own perspective.

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It was in a twitter post that he's since deleted.

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Hear, here. I did the same thing. You will see @drakos on my list, but he was not top 20 at the time this went through and was also, along with @guiltyparties and @neoxian, the most civil towards me during a few discussions.

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Hear, here. You may or may not like one of the posts I did about the FUD. I think that was the biggest problem as Twitter is just a shit show anyway designed specifically for the poparazzi to cash in on rumors.

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Is all good man.

yeah, twitter is a fucking shitshow 100%

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I think these lines are very good and important for the #steemit community. We will always want the healthy and elevated growth of our beloved platform. Being a Steemian, content creator is more than money, is to put the soul itself in each line published, for many like me, Steemit is a very important part of our lives. I hope and put my best wishes and good vibes for that to be so and we can continue to grow in positive, this platform is much for everyone. Thank you for these lines, I wish all the success in the world that we grow positively and have a good future and understanding. @justinsunsteemit

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Good to know that you're around and watching. I hope that you'll extend the meeting to the top 60 witnesses though, so that I may at least attend and listen in.

Here's to hoping that a positive collaboration may begin. It's been a long time since we've seen good progress around here and we're not so easily placated by mere promises anymore.

Thanks for the relatively swift response to our witness actions today. I hope the meetings go well this week.

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There are more than 60 witnesses? I say the more the better, like Bit Torrent, Bitcoin, etc.

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Thanks for the update. I think needs nothing more than marketing. It's a great blockchain and shouldn't be bastardized into another form. I don't remember having ever been interested in Tron as an investment or a community to hang out it but Steem and Steemit is different. Other than marketing its tough to see any major drawbacks that can't be worked through. It's great that you're here just dont crush our throats with your boot and all should be fine.

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I look forward to it.

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I think thats good ideas to how make Steem rise again and in this time together with Tron.

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Justin, I think this is the right move. I hope you realize, thru your participation in DPoS, that the Steem witnesses came together to take steps we felt were highly necessary to maintain the status quo and prevent major changes in the seem consensus due to the SteemIt, Inc. stake.

I would be happy to participate in discussions with you, and the rest of the witnesses, to best figure out how we can move forward in the best interest of Steem.

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Yeah well the status quo is what's killing the place.

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The best would be via voice chat, a lot of the witnesses are scattered around the world, it would be a challenge to gather them in a physical location. The community holds numerous weekly chats on Discord, so you're welcome anytime to join us to discuss important matters.

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Maybe a voice chat dApp on the Steem blockchain would be better than Discord. The conversations may be streamed and/or stored on the blockchain, so the users would be able to hear them to have more insight and knowledge about the happenings around Steemit and around the Steem blockchain.

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These meetings are posted by aggroed after they happen, stored on the blockchain. Isn't that good enough for you?

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I only gave an idea. I did not even know that the meetings are posted by anyone on the Steem blockchain.

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And please keep the "Pop Network" in mind, moving ahead with Tron...

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Thank you very much for the information Justin.
We can hear and feel the winds of change coming to Steem, I´m personally back with new hope for that great project and excited to explore the future together.
Thank you very much @justinsunsteemit and keep on with your communication to the Steem community.
Have a great week and my best wishes
Tom

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Thank you for the prompt answer @justinsunsteemit, it is re-assuring and our community witness: @ocd-witness are looking forward to further discussions on how both our chains can collaborate for the best of both worlds. We hope you didn't take our soft-fork as an aggressive move but rather a defensive one as it is a temporary measure and we care a lot about the community, users and this chain after nearly 4 years active here.

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Hey @acidyo - can you tell me a bit about this defensive soft-fork?

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There was a townhall in PAL server last night with witnesses, I believe @aggroed posted the recording if you want to listen

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Pussy. Yea don’t be too aggressive, someone might think you have some balls!!

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The spirit of the blockchain movement starts with GPL-style concepts, where we value the community over the guy at the top. Even though having a leader is very useful for having a functional project, we have seen many good projects either become corrupted by people who don't understand WHY we use a blockchain instead of mainstream social media, or we see good projects fail because the leadership does not know HOW to proceed forward into the future.

The most important aspect to me is anti-censorship, and the freedom to write what I want without feeling like someone can track, censor, or advertise to me in the way that every other popular social media website does.

I want to be free, and that's why I use blockchain technology. If you value freedom too, then declare it, and stick to your declaration of freedom.

If you can prove yourself, you will earn our trust and Steem will prosper. If you are false, then this is a dark day.

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With all confusion and not that great wording of things at the beginning we as a community expected more communication. The Town Hall sound as an improvement.

We all hope and think that this could be really good if we could work together.

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Hi Justin. I will be there.

I strongly believe that both the Tron and Steem ecosystems have a lot to gain by working together. I am excited for the potentail that the future holds. There are a lot of concerns that our community members, stakeholders, and witnesses have though which I am hoping can be addressed in the coming weeks.

I look forward to speaking to you on March 6 at the town hall.

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How many witnesses are there besides the top 20? Perhaps, we need more flexibility in the witnesses, the nodes. Perhaps, Steem should allow for full nodes, partial nodes, as much and as little as each person may want, like Bit Torrent.

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Only about 100 or less witnesses on that list. I say the more the better.

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That reads as very unstable. It is assumed that the "formula" of the witnesses is thus "built" in the "post" of stability.

You've never had errors in Bittorrent ... I do.

Steemit can't be a P2P .. Sure. Surely there are already more advanced protocols than P2P. Sure.

But I doubt its stability, either P2P or something similar.

Witnesses do not seem like a bad technique despite all the scalability problems they have.

From my point of view, they need to work more together with their backs to the public.

And it is necessary to look for some formula, which separates as much as possible. The witnesses of the curators and even the rest of the other projects.

At the end. Witnesses are like judges; And it can't be. Let the judges, be those who make the laws, those who judge and the prosecuted. Everything at once.

It is necessary to perform a separation of powers.

In this point. It could work perfectly @justinsunsteemit and try to make witnesses see different points that perhaps they have not been able to stop to see until today..

But for that it is necessary to be noble, work as a team and forget about profits for a moment; and focus on a future project that generates users. Basically. Because without users, there is no project..

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If witnesses are like judges, like you wrote, then I agree. It is similar to letting those who own land vote, historically speaking in the United States, and that can be a better system.

I would favor a hybrid of Steem witness nodes as the main core fused with an option, an extension, of Bit Torrent or IPFS or P2P style or Bitcoin like seeding or mining as a way to help distribute and redistribute Steem content, the web pages, etc, to help seed the content in a decentralized method, assuming it doesn't already do that.

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The problem of such a system. From my vague point of view and from my ignorance.

We would all have to start mining; and that reduces the number of Steemit users.

For a minimum of users, those with technological knowledge? And that they should also feel the project as their own, to see how they get involved in it.

It would not be much simpler. Simplify everything to the fullest, try to win users in bulk. Clean the visual face of the platform. Insert ads and pay witnesses with your money for honest maintenance. If necessary.

Talk to witnesses and promote changing the way you donate the Steem Power. Support more new users and fight because they become continuous time users.
It offers a platform with better content for them.

You have to try something new ... And although there are still 100 voices of witnesses who defend their small interests.

It seems that it is impossible for the platform to float again.

Not to mention the visual damage and marketing that all that does. The feeling of a flimsy project is transmitted, for every pore of Steemit. For each witness that opens a new "spectator" or "fork" (steam peak, busy, etc., etc., etc.)

I have been in Steemit for two years.

They have been making changes almost compulsively all this time, I don't see the improvement anywhere.

Maybe. It is time to look for an alternative path, or not..

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Both:

Why not make it optional? Isn't that how Bitchute works? Same thing with Dtube where you don't have to do IPFS to watch videos on Dtube. But you can if you want.

Optional

It would be like an add-on option. I would make the seeding, the mining, etc, optional, so that it doesn't change anything about what people have to do on Steem, on Steemit, on Busy, etc.

Bitcoin, Bit Torrent

Thousands of people around the world use Bitcoin, Bit Torrent, Bitchute, IPFS, seeding, mining, etc. So, some people would do it for Steem. So, make it optional like Bitchute.

Bitchute

You don't have to do it on Bitchute but I think they have it on Bitchute. In other words, we can still keep it simple like you said.

User Interface

Yes, clean the face of the platform, the user interface (UI), of the apps of Steem, would be a very good idea, that is to keep it minimal, as in simple. Yeah, to newbies, forks are confusing.

Firefox

Firefox is always making changes as well. Technically, Microsoft operating systems (OS) are always making changes and that is why you click to update your computer ever week or two. I use Ubuntu.

Delegation

So, you mentioned donating. Delegation in SP to witnesses can help. Yes, you can donate through delegating SP to witnesses and that is a good thing to do.

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Dtube, do you have seven active people doing that job today? It doesn't seem to have much appeal.

Dchute No one I know knows that website. It doesn't seem to have much appeal.

Bittorrent. The Young people barely know what it is ..

But yes. Are the ideas perfectly valid in cases of talking about a platform of little recognition or diffusion?

But for a really powerful project, with the need to mainly generate traffic.

That method would support millions of visits ..? Let's be realistic a platform based on content. The first thing to look for is to generate traffic, a lot of traffic. Infinite..

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Decentralization helps support millions of visits and much more.

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Full list of witnesses here: https://steem.arcange.eu/witnesses

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A total of 670 registed witnesses. Some of them are no longer witnesses as their names are crossed out. So, it looks like around 100 or less active witnesses as of right now. But I still think it would be better if Steem had as many witnesses as Bitcoin has miners. I think Bitcoin has thousands of miners. I know witnesses have to be voted on and miners are not voted on. A miner is just a machine that is mining Bitcoin. Can a single witness have many different Steem nodes? I am asking because I am hoping that the Steem nodes can be as decentralized as possible. I would say the more the Steem nodes, the better.

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If invites don't extend beyond the 50, I trust you'll represent the true core values some of us hold dear.

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This Steem machine is NOT stopping, looks like we may be picking up speed soon even. 🚂🚋🚃

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This is a great step. I often host witness forums in a discord group called the Peace, Abundance, and Liberty network. I'd be happy to assist. PALnet can be reached at http://minnowpond.org and my avatar can be found in the top right as aggroed. Let me know your vision of how it would work and we'll try to accommodate the best we can.

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@aggroed would be a great contact for hosting a town hall on Discord. Many of the Steem community group together there in regular weekly and monthly meetings. He and others run regular radio shows gathering the community together including witnesses.

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This would be great. Aggroed's shows are very well run, and an established way to hold productive discussions.

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I second this.

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Third! I'd like to listen to the discussion even after it is over with... DLive 🤦‍♂️

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No use https://3speak.online it uses steem . DLive neither uses trx or steem we should avoid it for now, @justinsunsteemit will learn about the bad blood between steem and dlive, and we will have justin realize Threspeak is he real community run group, while dlive was announced at steem fest only to leave steem? It was betrayal plane and simple, and a lot of greed, and dlive needs to be cut off from tron, or, i guess they KNOW they are theyre giving it back? well if justin sun didnt know now he knows

anyway I would like to remind @justinsunsteemit that we already have https://tron.newdex.io ready to go to list a TRX STEEMP we can have on tron, we can just name it STEEM, and it will be just like the EOS STEEMP we had created,

https://newdex.io/trade/steemoneosio-steemp-eos

contract
https://bloks.io/tokens/STEEMP-eos-steemoneosio

The @newdex-io site for tron already has DEC which is on steem-engine already

https://tron.newdex.io/trade/DEC_USDT

Together we will bridge Steem and tron using @someguy123 and @privex and steemenginex which already bridges steem to eos and telos, trx will be next and then erc20 STEEMP as well! Steem will be omni present! as a token on all the dpos chains and its going to havesome sort of hybrid witness voting gateway management one day.

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You understand that I’m thirding to him joining @aggroed on PAL right? I 🤦‍♂️ To DLive!

PALnet always document and publish everything! Thoroughly does he take upon his position of witnessing, he’s one of the first I have supported. They were my starting grounds for learning Steemy things and though I have ventured from the nest I intend to support my roots.

If I was to suggest a video platform it would be @DTUBE where you can ensure the longevity of your videos with self hosting as anything else can be removed from the centralized hosting servers!

Point was to agree with @arcange that @aggroed should host. Have them do a online meeting in PAL where a system has been proven to be executed efficiently for the entire STEEM community to review, big point, FOR ALL TIME!

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This 100%! @aggroed already has a system in place and represents community concerns/questions well in these discussions. It would be great if it is a public discussion, so rest of the community can tune in too.

P.S. @justinsunsteemit you may find this discussion by witnesses interesting. It took place after your AMA. https://steemit.com/dtube/@aggroed/o5fkcc5chcr

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Aggroed is the man here on Steem. Brought us Splinterlands and Steem-Engine. I would definitely communicate with this man to get in touch with the community of Steem.

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I think that @good-karma is also amongst the top witnesses.
He created and continuously developing eSteem, which is nowadays my favorite dApp on the Steem blockchain.

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Starting to centralize Steemit users would be a great achievement. And the team of witnesses and the new Steemit team. Get together more than you have before. If possible..

  • And that the new project, be done with all social media accounts under the name of Steemit.. Because for example, Steemit's social accounts in Spanish on Facebook (Steemit en español, Steemit Hispano, Steemit Hispanohablantes, etc, etc) they are all abandoned.

As for discord. More of the same.

Half dead servers everywhere ....

I know that many of those present, of the witnesses hate the word centralization. But right now, Steemit is screaming for it. Centralize and reorganize.

Both the way of working and its users, as well as the contents of the platform (it cannot be that Steemit's technical content takes over the project completely).

This no longer looks like a "social network," it looks more like a forum about Steem and cryptocurrencies. Personally, I don't have anything against that (I love technology), but if the goal was to find a lot of users, I don't think it goes in the right direction.

Discord servers are a nest of dead users, everywhere.

Everyone talks about Steemit. But if you enter the servers, there is no life in almost any of them. Or there are a handful of participatory people (the same happens in almost the entire Hispanic community)

People simply come in to share their post and leave. Come on. An absolute garbage.. U Know

Perfectly, everything would be centralized in one place, but for that you have to work it.

Although it would be great, many do not like to "centralize" but it's a joke for four cats that publish. Are there about twenty servers that say they have 200? 300? 400? users and it turns out that I don't know if they reached 50 or 40 active users? I think I'm being generous..

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Discord servers are a nest of dead users, everywhere.

Just like Steemit and the Steem blockchain. There are more than 1.3 million accounts, but most of them are inactive nowadays. They left Steemit and the Steem blockchain over the years. And most of the people, who remained, they focus only on their own posts, they do not care about other people's posts. They are selfish and greedy. Nowadays there are 23-32 000 daily active users, 40 000+ posts per day, but the average number of comments per post is only 1-3, and most of these comments are bot, bot-like, spam, spam-like comments. Many posts do not even receive comments. There are a lot of ignored/overlooked posts. This is very disappointing.

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Yes. I almost 100 agree on that with you. Although I also think that.. I do not know if you are in other social networks or if you read web pages.

If you look, in part, that is the attitude that users are taking the most today.

And the social networks that receive comments. They are always squirting comments. In fact. A large part of the technology web pages where I constantly inform myself.

They have completely suppressed comments, or failing that; They have largely hidden them.

Users currently do not comment, almost nowhere. Except that they need or want very specific information.

In my facebook group. Ocurrs the same.

Users now look for the most instantaneous. Commenting is not, it is not fast, it is not agile. Less from a mobile device.

We could say that now Twitter and Instagram are used, maybe also Facebook. As if it were the old messenger of Microsoft.

But, ¿What is Steemit's big problem?

That in the web pages even if no comments are left they still have Google traffic.

That on Facebook even if you do not comment or think too much, you still have the traffic acquired previously.

What if. You look at the traffic analytics of the web pages or if you analyze the statistics of a Facebook page. You will realize that although there is no such participation.

On other platforms if there are users viewing the content, on Steemit. I have many doubts. I think not. That is the big difference.
I say it because it is something that on the Facebook page I am suffering daily.

I say it because it is something that on the Facebook page I am suffering from this every day.

It is difficult for me to get users to participate. They make me feel "alone."

And I only get visibility with very specific content.

The technical content is absolutely discarded from the user's visualizations.

You can not even imagine the difference between a publication of technical content, with a publication of a simple and ridiculous technological meme downloaded from Google.

The meme, which took me 3 minutes to download
and publish. In almost all occasions. It is able to multiply the attention attracted by users. Minimum, I would say a minimum of 5 or 6 times more attraction; than any other publication that I have shared. Publications that have taken me 2, 3 or more days to make.

All the content that goes viral, are memes or the "simplest" content among everything I can get to publish.

That there are many variables within "all this". That is something obvious. Equally obvious it is.

That there are millions and millions of people who want memes or simple content that makes them smile.
And it turns out that the witnesses of Steemit or people 100% interested in the technical content of Steemit; how many people can they be? Less than a thousand?

And those less than a thousand are the only ones who are 100% interested in the content we have every day on the cover of Steemit.

From top to bottom.

They are a minority. I would dare to say that they are even a minority within Steemit.

Well, this cause has been like this, since I'm in Steemit; and I've been thinking the same thing since then. But apparently nobody notices.

Or maybe, they don't want to realize, maybe for them, this is their perfect Steemit forum. And they feel comfortable like that. With its own forum.

It's funny that they talk about Justin that he can break the platform with all his power.

Isn't that exactly what all the witnesses have been doing for the entire time I have been on Steemit?

Because it is like that. FROM what I have read that Justin could do now.

All they want. It is to protect yourself from Justin not doing exactly what they themselves have been doing for years and still doing today.

I would even say that, in many cases, regardless of whether your actions hurt the former Steemit team.

It is exactly what the whole group of witnesses has been doing until today. 100% control the platform. From the technical part, to the publications part, the bots part, the benefits part. EVERYTHING. They control everything.

Well, that was not what I was talking about. That is another subject.

I just wanted to say something else. Just I wanted to say.

That when all the people outside of Steemit enter here, the first thing they do is see the cover of the platform.

For them, see that content.

It must be the closest thing to contemplating a conversation between aliens they have seen in their lives.

No one has taken action on the matter, ever. What seems absolutely incredible to me.

How does someone want to attract users to the platform in this way?

It's crazy, but good. It is the reality of Steemit; and exactly for that, among many other things.

That's why I stopped publishing my content here (it wouldn't cost me anything to do it, because on my page, I, public on Markdown. I would just have to copy and paste), but I find it ridiculous.

Because I should lose those 5 minutes. Duplicating my content on Steemit. To post it on a forum about Steemit?
No. Until things start to change.

No thanks..

I thought I could change something with the communities. And I'm trying to launch a community with a little brain. But simply, it is a test.

More. I have already seen all the "communities / groups" of curators creating their own communities. The same groups financed by one or another witness. These "fictional communities" have already become owners of the entire new "communities" section completely on the website.

Instead of creating thematic communities and giving platform users another option.

They just want to do the same thing over and over again. "Don't let anything change, just in case." That is your average thinking base.

They keep doing the same. Because they want to continue defending themselves and harnessing their steem power donated by blind witnesses that allow them to destroy the platform from top to bottom.

So ... More of the same. It is cyclic.

That's why they want to live locked up here.

Anyway. I better go..
Because they enervate me to the point of making me cry.

The potential of this project seems incredible, if someone could turn it around; and do some strength and hard hand.

I see how Steemit has developed and it makes me want to scream, cry, kill myself.

Just by trial and error, sooner or later the project should have found some point of attracting users.

But no. I have been here for two years and nothing has changed in regards to the user.

Yes. Best. I am going.. At the end. It's none of my business, I can't do anything. Also, they told me in their day that it was better for me to remain silent.

So. I better I m go to my home. To continue seeing what happens here from the shadow.

For fear that my criticisms are poorly received and end up sending me to hell inside Steemit. I return to where I have been for almost two years.

You know what's around here. The devil leads the one who criticizes hell later.

And the power people end up killing you. Only. For not licking her ass.

Also. Unfortunately, I don't know English; and that limits me tremendously when participating.

I would love to share many more ideas. Although I don't know what would be better, if I was quiet or talking. Tssssssssssssssss. I'm leaving that I don't do anything, and in my time here nobody rewards me.. 😹

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I have felt the same way since the bots were introduced and I investigated who owned all the steem. It was pre-mined and I kinda lost all hope for Steemit. In general, I think all social media is doomed, it really isn't social my friend and when you include money for likes and dislikes, interaction, all the positive leaves. For people like me its nice to get my artwork out. What's funny, I've made more money earning crypto showing and writing about my paintings than selling them!

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tldr

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LOL same. I read only the first and last paragraphs 🙈

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A real shame, because maybe. If you could understand a little of the idea I try to convey.

Steemit's problems would be understood.

Basically.

  1. Today's users leave no comments anywhere.

  2. Users are users of mobile devices; little participatory

  3. Large social networks have traffic that Steemit does not have and that until immediate registration is implemented, it will be virtually impossible to achieve.

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Thanks for the summary. Nothing against you it was just too long.

  1. Very true unfortunately
  2. I dont see a big issue there and does not surprise me. The site is decently responsive for mobile browsers and there are a couple of apps out there that mostly work. I agree that more could be done on that front.
  3. I read somewhere that this is one of the first things Justin said he wants to work on.

Time will tell..

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Good. Bad luck.. Ideas for forgetting, without more.

Sometimes happens.. 🤞

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@coininstant
First understand what I am talking about. Then you come to give me negatives. Piece of ghost.

Your use of steemit is vomitive. You disgust me.

A little kiss 💋💋💋💋💋

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I'm sorry. The bible I just wrote. My mother .. IPouf? They make me sick? I get sick? I'm sorry again.

Good day ..

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It's okay, your post was heartfelt and there isn't a lot of that to be had. Take care of yourself.

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I liked your comment. This is true and informative. thanks a lot

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Have not been on steemit for longer than two years or so. Can honestly say I love it and am always scanning for other posts of interest. Must be more with this mentality. I know because I look inside. The opposite would be sad to endure

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You used to be able to make some steem commenting but there was a hardfork that changed that. Everyone here is a content creator and no one is a consumer, its one of those things that has to change for success. I can post the same post on Reddit I post here and get a dozen replies. No one comes to steem and just browses

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This is the problem, which prevents Steem from being successful. If people would use the Steem blockchain naturally, then the Steem blockchain would be a successful thing. But people come here only for the money. And they think only about themselves. They doom the whole platform by their selfishness and greediness.

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u-huh, i quit my autovoters i wrote up b/c actually about 80% or more of people i followed in my own scripts to vote on since 3+ years ago have quit, most quit when it went below $2 , the rest after apocalypse 21 and i hope the dip today doesn't mean the rest will follow

me, personally i dont have anything better to do and it would be awfully nice to see this marvelous piece of software achieving something other than the 20-people circlejerk from the start (you cant say it like that ! ... i just did ...)

at least somethings happening ! they were talking about communities when i signed up , the price was $7 , you had posts running in the $4000 , bots werent evil (they sold that software for over $1000 a piece and e'eryone happy with it at first)
and then nothing ... and now we get on guy with actual , real wall-street money and they can suddenly dust off the shelf and roll it out in two days and market it as HOT and NEW ...

not happy about the fact that the original inquisition is still state approved and now actually labels people on the U.I. for the world to see, that's like the same 5 deciding what good content is

this thing is less de-centralized than the belgian governments and we have six of those

i have spoken

i eagerly await the day when i can say

"steemit bought my lambo" ...

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I think that’s because steemit is so out of date and has such a poor user interface. I admit to being a selfish poster on here I just don’t have to the time I trawl through looking for things I like when the rewards are so low. The stuff I am interested is hard to find. On fb and insta I am far More engaged. It’s just not very user friendly. You can blame users as much as you like but there is a reason people are not engaging. Steemit rly needs a huge upgrade in its interface and the way we see and engage in posts.

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This is not just/only about Steemit. There are many Steem blockchain interfaces, such as Busy, SteemPeak, eSteem, and the real human comments are rare on all of them.

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I never rly graduated off steem as it’s just too much to hAve all these differnt sites for the same one. I did like partiko and steemshot more but it’s just too many apps for me. I mean maybe this style works for some people but most people I think prefer one user face that’s great.

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centralize users :p ...

i dont know what its about, im sure ill find out but all i can see is that the price is dis-agreeing with something today . I havent been on any of the exchanges today so i dont know if its a global dip or not, hence

we shall keep our opinion until it comes with backing :p

i was hoping more for disruption of the steemit quo, not continuation of the current 10 peple-wide protectorate and the 4 state-approved blacklists

cos thats just more of the same, and that has proven for 2+ years now : "not to work at all"

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100% agree. The right word would have been to unify. I was just trying to make a small pun..

In the Hispanic community, there are too many communities; and all with a small number of users.

Perfectly, they could group together to get stronger. But it seems impossible due to people's selfishness.

I think. That we have a similar thought.

What seems clear is that Steemit needs a change in his methodology, or something like that.

And I find it very, very curious. That witnesses seem to want to go out to protect themselves before they even know what can happen.

That is understandable. In part, but ..

They should also be open to changes. For the benefit of all.

The project itself has proven not to work too well for now.

It is clearly stagnant.

Greetings..

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Bump for @aggroed to host/coordinate the meeting. He knows how to draw a crowd and keep the conversation on track

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Another "yes" to get @aggroed to host it. He has experience holding large discussions and have shown this from previous shows/forums

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Yup. Aggy is the man to host and moderate such a discussion.

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Yup. Aggy is the
Man to host and moderate
Such a discussion.

                 - techslut


I'm a bot. I detect haiku.

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Nice haiku techslut 😂

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Every time. I leave a comment and in comes that bot to remind me I was a poet once.

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Ha ha... Haikubot is a dick like that. I remember once it appeared four times on a haiku post I wrote... And I'm like 'screw you haikubot! Stealing my thunder with your multiple haiku.'

I might have some good news for the poet's and fiction writers of steem very soon.

Watch this space 👀👀👀

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Ooooh curious Ilana is now curious. My main issue with onboarding creatives is that crypto and wallets and keys make them quickly run away away. Too complex.

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crypto and wallets and keys make them quickly run away away.

You have a point, but I'm hopeful these issues can be redressed (for some anyway) both through platform developments, and simple step by step tutorials.

There are also a lot of creative writers who left steem who may come back if the community strengthens, and rewards are more appropriate given the time and talent it takes to write great fiction and poetry.

Ha ha, anyway... I'll quit my salesman patter and let you know, one way or another, when the good-for-creative-writers news drops 🙂

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Fourth! I want to hear it after it's done!

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I honestly think if Justin wants to show that he's interested and committed to working with witnesses and the community, he should get in contact with y'all, not the other way around. He can't buy y'all's trust and cooperation, and it's not like y'all went into hiding. Personal outreach is considered important for a reason, ya?

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Great place for it and a non-witness host like @shadowspub should also be moderating to represent the community aspect that isn't witness oriented but here for the freedom Steem offers. That's her bottom line - it's all about the community.

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I love this idea. Thanks for taking the lead on this @aggroed this community has lots of faith and trust in you. I’m sure with LOTS and LOTS of regular talks between Justin and our witnesses blockchain mountains can be moved. Justin can help us and we can help him which is exactly how it should be. One day at time brother.

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I think it's time for all the haters to put an end to all the whining and crying. Let's create a positive atmosphere for all the new users coming on board. Let's forget the turmoil of the past and turn the page to a new chapter the Steemit journey. I'm excited to see what the future holds!

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The positive atmosphere should be there for every user, not only for the new users. But only the community can create that positive atmosphere. If there are any. I have not seen it yet. Just take a look at the statistics to see what I am talking about.

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Oh u’d be whining and crying too if markymark was flagging u’r every post! good bye!

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Ya 100% I'd be pissed too Bro, I think Justin will put an end to downvotes. I think downvoting repels everyone away from steemit.

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They won’t forget the turmoil, they still hating on me!

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@coininstant I'm pretty sure big changes are coming Bro! 😝🌹

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Not for me, no matter what i have that warlock flagging! So good for you! I'm moving on. If the changes happen and someone says I won't be flagged any more maybe I'll give it another try one day, but until then I'm bored here!

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I fully agree with you, however ...

haters gonna hate. you know this saying, right @cyberblock?

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The downvotes on my comment prove how much hatred we still have on this platform. Im not sure what triggers them but it needs to be purged from our community if we want steem to succeed.

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I guess that u were scammed.

See below and related writings if you can see this comment.
If you cannot see this comment, u should have studied more before u invested.

[Steem: Scam] Censor-free deCentral Media? No! Opposition Suppressing Hidden-Central Scam. Evidence. [스팀: 사기] 검열없는 탈중앙 매체? 아니! 반대의견 탄압 위장된 중앙화 사기. 증거 제시.
( https://staging.busy.org/@bewarecenterbase/steem-scam-censor-free-decentralized-media-no-opposition-suppressed-hidden-centralization-evidence ) Yet Censor-Free busy.org link. 아직 언론자유 busy.org 링크
( https://steemit.com/steem/@bewarecenterbase/steem-scam-censor-free-decentralized-media-no-opposition-suppressed-hidden-centralization-evidence ) Evil Steem-Censor Block this link. Just for Evidence. 검열 접근불가 steemit 링크. 단순 증거용.
2019.12.28.Sat.08:33 (utc+9), by @BewareCenterBase;

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6th of march seems a bit of a short amount of time to organize this for people outside the US.

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Thanks for the quick response. Looking forward this future TownHall you speak of :)

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I am so happy to see such a prompt response from you Justin. This tactical approach to managing the community is important to Brooker mutual benefit.

However, while I am so happy you are seeking a physical audience with the top 50 witnesses of Steem and reiterating your push to sync Tron's creativity to Steem's which are for our good, you have not expressed your displeasure or support to the Softfork which is crucial at this time.

We the community on Steem are curious to hear your stand on the Softfork which directly bothers the usage of the massive Steemit Inc stakes.

I personally want to be assured that my Investment of time to share value on a decentralized community as steem won't be jeopardized. I refuse to use Facebook because of centralisation where one person can take Ll gor granted.

Does your position in this post mean that you accept the temporal Softfork until March 6th when you'll actually speak with the witnesses?

In all, thank you for declaring a support for Steem's future as we hope to see you publish a roadmap.

We in steem wish that we'll have a more directed communication. If you make a statement today, let the next day's statement build a support on the previous.

We do not take deleting of crucial tweets and probably editing ot deleting of posts for granted. All we need is a business trust as you come onboard steem.

I am certain that you have the credential for an upward trend of marketing steem. Steem Also has a wealth od creativity that would make your Investment here break-even quickly.

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That was a rather quick capitulation, all for what $70mil worth of staked steem being soft-forked out?

Still, you are very eager to please and are saying all the right things. Most importantly, at the right time. I gather the timeliness is of essence, so ONWARDS and UPWARDS.

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I don’t want TRC10, TRC20, etc. Give me SMTs!!!

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Why not both?

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Both would be good. But since @steemitblog and @justinsunsteemit have been avoiding the topic of SMTs I am suspecting they will try not to release SMTs and go only with TRCs.

It would be nice to hear from them about SMTs.

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Let's keep an open mind. SMTs aren't even done and even the version that is "almost" done is a bit stripped down from the original vision. As long as it is approached as a collaboration and with mutual respect it could be possible that a pivot to, say, Steem Communities integrated with TRCs is best the way to go.

Then again, maybe not. But we should avoid tribalism and rejecting anything that is "not invented here" without at least evaluating it. Thankfully with the soft fork in place and the witnesses demonstrating their ability to implement upgrades independently of Steemit we are on a good path to decide our own future.

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WOW wow, how wonderful to read you and take the opportunity to give you a warm welcome. In STEEM we are a great chain of human beings won to give good things.
All changes bring some fears, but reading you and being close builds trust.
STEEM is full of passionate people who love being here and being part of this beautiful family, where we can all grow together. We are not perfect but we want to learn and share positive values in community.
Having people with vision and strategic thinking will make this blockchain reach the moon.
My best wishes for this new path that we undertake today and rain of blessings. What I can support here I will be. Good vibes. :)


Español: WOW wow que maravilla leerte y aprovecho a darte una cordial bienvenida. En STEEM somos una gran cadena de seres humanos ganados a dar cosas buenas. Todos los cambios traen algunos miedos, pero leerte y estar cerca genera confianza. STEEM esta lleno de personas apasionadas que nos encanta estar aquí y formar parte de esta bella familia, donde todos podemos crecer juntos. No somos perfectos pero tenemos deseos de aprender y compartir valores positivos en comunidad. Tener personas con visión y pensamiento estratégico, harán que esta cadena de bloques llegue a la luna. Mis mejores deseos para este nuevo camino que hoy emprendemos y lluvia de bendiciones. En lo que pueda apoyar aquí estaré. Buena vibra. ;)
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Awesome news! I'm glad to hear that you have an active interest in our community and are taking positive steps for the development of our future. Best wishes.

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I feel it is important to show you guys I am here and ready to begin building with you.

This is great news. Thank you for responding so quickly.

Steemit has clearly needed better leadership for quite some time and I for one am excited to see it taking shape. My hope is this new partnership between Tron and Steemit will also benefit the STEEM token holders and the users of the Steem blockchain who have spent years of their life putting content on this chain. The temporary steps taken in SF22.2 were in response to those users who expected their witnesses to protect their chain. Your response and willingness to reach out to the witnesses and have an open discussion is exactly what I was hoping for. I hope the meetings next week with the Steemit team go fantastically well. The witnesses are ready to engage in conversation to find the best path forward for our communities.

Edit: as for the meeting, I hope for a Zoom video call or Discord audio call where the top witnesses can directly participate but all in the community can listen in.

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I just read Tron Tron Tron from your side.

I am not interested on the Tron Chain and this never change.

Steem is a book for writing.
If you want help to grow this book, just write your text in it. Vote small!!! Witnesses and do not promote your Chain in every second word.

I am out of Steemit.

Salve

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Why not wait and see what happens? Why not be open for new things? I will never understand why humans always tempt to make hasty decisions before even knowing what's going on..

At least Justin communicated already more than Ned in the 1.5 years I'm on this chain..

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Yes he talk about Tron. I am not so open for „new“ things, that is right, because new means not better every time. @ned create this chain, it another thing for me. Here we got a new big stakeholder, a new way to promote his own thing. Tokens from Tron on Steem??? Not for me. I do not need changes for every price.

Remember my sceptic later.

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New things bring new options and opportunities. There are so many aspects which could finally change with the support of the tron foundation. Just take marketing as an example - The way the marketing was handled in the past was beyond terrible. It's obvious that good marketing requires resources (money) and with the tron foundation there are finally enough funds which could back up those issues.

Nothing wrong with being septic though. But deciding to leave the chain without having any evidence on what's going on is in my eyes an hasty decision.

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I understand your point of view. A (better) Marketing for the Steem is Ok for me. But wath is the price we paid for?

How much did Tron paid for Steemit??? 20?% of the hole Steem they bought with it. How much they paid? I do not think, it was 1500 Sat for a single Steem.

Often I saw a new Boss in a Companie. Every!!! times it was a bad desicion for the little ones.

I do not think it worth it. Let us see, how long it needs they sell it again.

The Spirit of Steem died with this change for me. Now, it is the Spirit of Tron.

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We are proud to have you sir Justin, i know your project will be more initiative and can help alot in steem community. We are excited and ready for the soft hardfork 22.2 let's rock 222 the best fork on steem. Should it be? Will! I'm sure it would be.

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Because of covid-19 outbreak a virtual meeting option is better.

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this sounds really good and.. unexpected!

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Thank you @justinsunsteemit this is the kind of communication we need. There has been way too much going on in the shadows. I was really glad to see our witness governance put to work, and work extremely well. I am also very glad to see the prompt response from you. Glad to see the witness town hall meeting happen. Those are the ones you need to meet with! Excited to see the future!

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I am excited to see where Steem can go, many of us are very passionate about our community and want great things for Steem.

I am looking forward to future discussions about Steem and the future.

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I love Firefly and Castle.

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low effort useless bullshit flattering comment, too much reward.
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Glad to see you noticed what we are trying to protect.

I am the newest (?) witness team on the blockchain here.

We did not make top50, but we launched in the hardest times when nobody would.

We understand none of us can go there to meeting but at least we would like to be noticed as protectors of STEEM chain.

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I hope that this letter is a call for peace

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He baselessly claims it is a "ponzi scheme" which just shows that either he doesn't understand how it works or (more likely) he just doesn't understand what a ponzi scheme even is! And the blatant hypocrisy in him trying to fight "vote selling" when that is exactly what he did with his bidbot! As as bidbot owner with over a dozen alt accounts he is in no place to judge what is right or wrong here on Steem. Now he is mad that his scam has ended. So like an upset child, he has decided to take out his anger (caused only by his own failures) on other innocent people. Making him nothing more than a big bully!

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Hopefully. Seems more of a parlay than anything.

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Many on the platform do not agree with the soft fork and think it was done from a paranoia of a select few losing control they hold.

While not a witness I would like to poach some of your time in the future to discuss projects that can create a demand for Crypto and make it part of everyday life to a wide user base.

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Many on the platform do not agree with the soft fork and think it was done from a paranoia of a select few losing control they hold.

This is actually not the case at all. It was not a select few fearing a loss of power. It was a rather large consensus of witnesses and other stakeholders who discussed how to best mitigate the potential security risk to the Steem blockchain over a period of almost 10 days.

There wasn't any paranoia and it wasn't some conspiracy between a small group of colluding top witnesses. It was actually a rather good and hopeful discussion between most of the parties involved. And while we all didn't exactly agree on the best path forward, we came to a compromise and did what we felt was needed to ensure Steem's continuity and the status quo regarding Steemit's stake.

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Never mentioned conspiracy.

From the first meeting I attended about this prior to today in Pal server. The only thing heard from witness was the need to have a fork, all based on that if Justin Sun uses his SP to vote for a witness.

The status quo as you say is something that I also feel the majority of Steemit.com user base is a self server one to those same people who decided on the sort fork.

There has been a consistent (from many users and witness) voice speaking out against the present way the governance of the Steemit.com platform. For an example the reduction of votes one person can cast to witness which was ignored and still is. The only reason I can see for this is the maintaining of control over decisions made.

The last HF made it even harder for a new member to gain a foothold on the Steemit.com platform by reducing the value of any vote below a required amount. This is done while at the same time the same witness state that retention of users is needed, Mass on-boarding is needed and the need to bring business to the Steem chain. Business will come much easier with a larger active user base, not by the reduction of it.

We see things from different sides of the wall it seems.

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I couldn't agree more with the last 2 paragraphs. I don't get the point of onboarding more users if most of them will be left on seen(except for their intro if lucky), if the same people and type of content will get the votes.

The same frustrations I have with the effects when a small sp holder votes for content, a witness, or an sps proposal.

Yes I know steem is a stake based platform but we should at least pretend a bit that we care about the small sp by using 1 to 1 sp ratios instead of multipliers.

At this point even if i still had the urge to optimistically preach steem and sp I don't how I could keep a straight face saying that each vote adds up, that your voice matters, etc.

Steem may be an undiscovered technological gem but, right now it needs users more than they need it, and should strive to be friendlier to them in all aspects.

Just my 2 cents.

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Fast and appropriate response. Communication is key.

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Justin Sun, im Follower 1001. ;)

I just want to say that i think this aquisition is a good thing and im looking forward to see the fruits of your work! All the best!^^

My two cents for a even better Steem: Simplify things for the users as much as possible, without taking away functionality.

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Wow! This is great, great news. Looking forwards to working together with this decentralized team.

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Great response. Working together is better... and Im confident it's a great move. Sending you encouragement & support from Thailand. Resteemed.

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Please let witnesses become like Bit Torrent, IPFS, P2P, Bitcoin, like miners, customizable.

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Thanks for responding so quickly Justin! Working with the witnesses and inviting them to San Francisco to be part of the process is a positive step towards making more decentralized Steem community :)

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Hi Justin! Looking forward to talking to you at the town hall. If Tron and the community work together, we ll be able to achieve great things!

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It’s great to see a positive post like this, however it still does not answer the question on everyone’s mind, is Steemit going to migrate over to Tron?

We were told in an AMA that there would be no major changes for now. But since then I have seen no end of conflicting posts from YouTube to Twitter to Steemit and even TRONLINK.

I am sure this is just a little miss communication, and that @justinsunsteemit and/or Tron will be able to provide the Steemit community with a road map soon to provide absolute clarity on steemit’s direction moving forward.

I wish you and the whole Steem community an awesome day!

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Wow, good aproach, together we can make this great. I am happy to hear that you are listening to the Community.

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Hi @justinsunsteemit, as a regular member of Steem Blockchain I am happy to hear respond from you. In addition, I would like to suggest that please shoulder all the expenses of our top 50 witness just a token of appreciation for there hard work. Just saying...

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Nice to meet you.
Welcome to. @cjsdns running https://www.steemzzang.com/
I think you are wise and appreciate your skills.
I will be happy to participate if it helps.
Thank you.

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Big support to @cjsdns
I am from Hong Kong and it would be nice to know more about this community
I joined to steemit thanks to @dobartim who opened door and new vision to me
It is nice to see changes going forward with @justinsunsteemit Steem And Tron wisdom
I hope for the best to all our communities
Steem Tron On
@steemzzang you have my support

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So Justin how is this working together in a town hall fashion that is going to be super effective working out? I have seen some shit not age well in my time but this has gotta be near the top.

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watch out for grey hairs bro

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Never gonna happen in this glorious mane.

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Be careful bro, Ned will sell you in a heartbeat to the highest bidder 😂

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Very happy to see your response. I really believe this is a match made in heaven if we play this right. Steem is a unique blockchain with an amazing community. Let’s work together to make this community as big and decentralized as it has ever been!

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Great move by the witnesses as proven by the response. I’m still buying!

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Tron?

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I did buy some Tron! The more points of view I read the more confusing/clear/exciting/devastating/exhilarating this becomes!