Using the Steem Proposal System Overview

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I understand it a little bit better, I see that line now! It's kinda hard to grasp with the return proposal and all. Is the return proposal just like voting NO? Why don't they just make it simple vote YES or NO instead of calling it a return proposal? Return proposal sounds so abstract. I still don't totally grasp the system but i did vote on something before, and that's the main thing right?How do you track the ongoing proposals and such? Could someone scam the SPS system, get money and not do anything??? Like a George Castanza SPS? lol Who's watching? These are my questions that come to the top of my head after watching your video.

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How do you track the ongoing proposals

I only use the SteemPeak interface for it, but you can see active, upcoming, etc. proposals.

Could someone scam the SPS system, get money and not do anything

In theory, yes. Say, if 20M SP worth of stake want to collude to extract funds, they could. But, it becomes a rather pricey endeavor. As of now, only STINC could cheat with impunity, but that will tank the price quicker than it's going right now.

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Thanks for the info! I get it now!!👍🤙🤙

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Don't you find it ironic that whom you're having this conversation with is being downvoted by the OP? AS IF...

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Then return proposal sets the minimum bar a project must cross to get funded. How would you decide the minimum bar in a yes/no voting system?

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We’ll I didn’t totally understand that part, so that’s why I asked! Thanks for clarifying!! I don’t know, that’s a good question! I think I was playing hooky that day when the post explaining everything came out! lo that’s why I don’t ask questions a lot, you all are rocket scientists, can be intimidating! 🙏👍👍

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Can you do proposals for anything? What about could I do a proposal for STEEM for gas money to go fly my drone around and take surf pics so my blog? What are the rules?

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It's generally about building something on the Steem blockchain.

Basically, instead of using the reward pool, the stakeholders can decide if the blockchain will pay you directly to complete a project. Of course, people would want you to keep them updated, or you could lose funding when people withdraw their votes for your proposal.

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20M SP participating in the proposal system seems underwhelming given the amount of stake available outside of STINC's.

Kinda funny how a lot of people dislike their government, but decided that it's a good idea to not participate with their stake even in this system.

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A lot of stake is sleeping and a lot of users just don’t participate. It’s fairly common to get low % of participation in most everything in life.

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That's also a fair point.

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I wonder, is there some place to see easily how much stake has been active at all in the past day, 7 days, 30 days, etc.

I'm sure you are right that a lot of it is deep asleep, but it would be good to know just how much. This would help us assess how far we have to go to get broad(er) participation with SPS.

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hm .. an expiration date on crypto might be the future ... no need to ask your local plankton to burn :)

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Hey @enforcer48
Ever see this phase used here:
'resistance is futile' lol
joe's corollary:
Resistance is inevitable

There are a lot of con tributing factors that stimulate the action of choosing not to engage ........

Groups such as ''The Agents Smith Chain of Command'', are created specifically to propagate a lack of engagement.

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Well it's nice seeing you think the SPS is still decently viable.
I liked the video and the explanations well done.

Since we're on the subject of SPS...

I just don't think we'll see many proposals for a while because it's just too much of a hassle and any large proposal requests are almost default not going to get voted on, that and everyone seems to have a decently large set of red flag no-vote triggers. And more or less the attitude is scarcity mentality (which i can undestand because of the state of steem the last year or two).

So we're left with making a proposal representing: 1. lot's of drama for the proposer, 2. lots of work to get that much vote value and 3. not lots of money. That's a perfect storm for this thing to basically to sit on ICE for a while. Some day it'll be useful again... i still believe in the idea but right now it's basically the perfect conditions for not much action and creativity.

Mostly it's the scarcity mentality and probably mixed in with a touch of vindictiveness in voting behavior.

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It's not ideal but it is better than what we had. Unfortunately, one community accounts for over 50% of the votes and it is virtually impossible to approve anything now without them.

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Amazing Idea of the posting sir first time I am changing your posting guidelines I request to you one time chak my blog and gave me some advice by steemit

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This has really cleared up a lot of confusion for me. Thanks for the detailed explanation, I appreciate it! ;)

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Ah, kiddo. Maybe I ask you to help? I receive a great deal of down-votes from @coininstant and friends? I am much more aggressive than you concerning this nuisance account.

Don't have a great deal of SP to counter these nuisance folks. I do the best I can. Just asking for a bit of help?

10 Nuisance accounts down voting my posts. Sure, my fault for putting this little peckerhead @coininstant on an hit list.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend...

Reached out and the boy would not listen.

Just to sum up all of this? Help!

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Mind your own business i'm not bothering you unless you bother me.I told u before if i see you talk about me i will flag u! If u flag me i will flag u! U are talking to the nuisance. u r a nusance, not me! Just do your own thing, don't worry about others. If u get flagged by me just let it be and move on!

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I would do so, but it is you, sir, that have brought me into this affair. You up-vote, you down-vote and by your own admission to one of my posts; you do so with no rhyme or reason.

Your actions on this platform I describe as nothing less than harrassment. Punishing others because you have grudges. You have made posts which make this very clear. Yes, I do read your posts and those of your comrades and alt-accounts.

We all must answer for our actions. You, sir, have made this my business.

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I haven't been bothering you in a while! It was just a one time affair! I don't care you can do whatever you want. I only have beef with @themarkymark!

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I don't know what you would do cause i couldn't read my comment to you cause it was blocked! sorry i can't remember what you were talking about, care to refresh my memory??????????! lol

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Here is another...
https://steempeak.com/dont/@coininstant/q1c3ay

I believe the two I have shared are sufficient for you to know what I am talking about.

I could give more examples, but I am tired. I have been curating posts today trying to give encouragement to the community.

This down-voting/flagging nonsense and the innocents that are pulled into the personal feuds of others (and it is not just your feuding, there are other feuds taking place on this platform) is not conducive to anyone's emotional or mental health.

The foregoing reason is why I will not visit this topic with you again.

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