Voice: The Ultimate In Surveillance?

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Lost over the last week in all the other news is the fact that Voice was released. This is Block.one's entry in to the world of social media. Running on its own EOS fork, it is touted as believing everyone's voice should be heard.

The only problem is that this application looks like it does the exact opposite.


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To start, it is a social media application that requires full KYC (Know Your Customer). This is usually reserved for the financial world since regulations require entities that are offering securities to know who they are selling to. It is also a way for authorities to track people engaging in illegal affairs.

The idea behind this for Voice is that people should have the right to say whatever they want. I guess you can conclude that by attaching one's identity, it might cut down on the trolling. However, as for speaking one's mind, this is a far cry from it.

There are many parts of the world, including the United States, where it is dangerous to openly voice one's opinion. I can only presume that the team behind this overlooked the fact that people can often lose their jobs because of opinions they express on social media. Amazon, along with most corporations, has a policy of termination if one speaks out against the company's actions.

We also see careers destroyed, especially in the sciences, if one goes against the politically correct ideas of the time. The attack dogs come out and people get blacklisted. Suddenly, they are cut off from funding along with often being terminated by politically correct institutions.

Then there is the physical danger aspect of things. By having one's name tied to opinions, especially controversial ones, there is the threat of lunatics taking action. We can add in the fact that, in many parts of the world, expressing certain opinions lands one in jail, or worse as governments exercise their freedom of force.

Naturally, all the personal information collected during the KYC process is not posted online. A government issued photo (there is some irony there) is required though during the sign up process and is the avatar used for the profile.

So where does all this personal information reside?

Lucky for the users, it is outsourced. Block.one chose HooYu to handle the process and store all the data. It is one thing if there is a hack revealing user names and passwords but this company is going to have full name, address, phone number and the aforementioned government photo.

This opens up another can of worms since the data can be accessed by outside entities.

“Investigators can speed up the tracing process by revealing all connections to an individual or business; this allows them to discover hidden addresses, associates, telephone numbers and email addresses, leading to more effective recovery operations,” claimed HooYu.

HooYu also reserves the right to share all user data it collects with its employees and contracted companies acting as data processors on its behalf. While the company’s privacy policy notes that data processors are only allowed to use the data according to HooYu’s instructions, this bears little weight in the aftermath of the Cambridge Analytica scandal.

https://cryptobriefing.com/block-ones-voice-raises-privacy-alarms-debt-collection-crime-prevention/

Another problem arises with the fact that Voice is tied to an EOS wallet. This enables any entity to watch the wallet and monitor all transactions. Once they have a starting point, they can reveal the entire online transaction history as it unfolds. All financial transactions will be open to viewing.

Of course, if you have some money in a wallet somewhere, the debt collectors will know. So will the taxing authorities. The regulators will be able to follow what you are doing. Major corporations will be know more about you with your purchases. Instead of being open only to Facebook (and whomever it sells the info to), this is open to everyone.

Then there is this interesting tidbit from Voice itself.

The question that jumps out is who is doing the moderation? Facebook has moderation too and that did not work out so well for some who exercised their freedom of expression.

It is also worth noting that Block.one recently settled with the SEC over their ICO. The company raised $4 billion yet received basically a slap on the wrist. The fine was $20 million which I am sure anyone would trade for a $4 billion windfall. Perhaps there were some strings to the caliber of the fine.

The linked article above has more information, especially about HooYu.

After reviewing some of this, we can see how it is all very troubling. It is bad enough we still have to endure this with the financial system yet, now, it is spreading to social media. The consequences of "sharing one's voice" are evident to anyone who looks at history. Even today, with the division we see across the globe, open-mindedness and accepting of diverse opinions is rather sparse.

Somehow, the Voice team feels that this path is a good approach and has some benefit. I guess the question is to whom?

It does not appear that the users are the major ones to benefit.


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wrote about part of this just few hours ago, not in this kind of articulated way :D

interesting conspiracy theory: (i don't know the time frame of things happening but :) ) did they start talking about KYC after the settlement? Maybe that 20mil was just for public, and KYC was the real deal.

“Investigators can speed up the tracing process by revealing all connections to an individual or business; this allows them to discover hidden addresses, associates, telephone numbers and email addresses, leading to more effective recovery operations,”

this does not sounds like a company people should be happy with to give them all the info.

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That is my take. Not sure of the time line with the KYC but it is something that is hard to overlook.

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They mentioned identities being tied to accounts long ago, long before any settlement was announced. That was supposed to be one of the major ways they were going to fix the problems that steem faced...

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i thought that voice was just going to be bad. Now it looks like they have gone full evil.

A copy of the EOS chain... where people can be banned by people with larger stakes.

(and i thought EOS was supposed to be a major, super-duper, highway for computing power. So why the need for a fork? Why indeed? So that certain people will have complete control over who Voice® s their opinion?)

And know this, any company that does KYC shares the information with the govern-cement.

The govern-cement says, "hey, we see that you have this KYC database, we need it. And you can't tell anyone you gave it to us, because that may compromise an investigation."

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Yes they have their pitch down to a tee.

KYC in social media...maybe Voice is setting a trend. They want to get all the social media sites to fall into line.

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Yeah, requiring you to use your mug shot and full name publicly along with the fact that none of your posts are stored on the chain for easy censorship is kind of a bad idea imo.

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Nothing on chain. This crap has no reason to exist. None!

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I mean there's a hash that identifies it was you who did the post, but that doesn't really help when someone deletes it. I really don't get why it exists as well.

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The fact that it allows people to be fucked will probably make it attractive to governments and investors alike, thus it'll be successful.

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Dunno. A blockchain is completely unnecessary for an application like this.

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This is preposterous, funny enough the bunch of people who will rush into it might not even be aware of what they're getting themselves into. By the time tax officials begin clamping down on crypto users, Voice will be a very nice place to hang out for them.

Forget the fact that Voice is tied to a top crypto-EOS, this is opposite of everything Satoshi Nakamoto fought to build, Dan should know this,...sigh...I expected better from Voice.

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This whole thing is garbage. Pure and simple. There is not a single redeeming factor to it except for the fact that each and every user is a unique human being. The KYC thing is dangerous to be honest. If it's not open source and if it cannot be verified that the information is hashed on the user's own device and that it never leaves it unhashed, then this is full on KYC. I have no desire to go anywhere near it.

Notably, this exists on an EOS fork. Why? Would it be too expensive to run it on the main chain where it would compete for memory, bandwidth and processing power against other EOS apps? EOS is somewhat expensive to run as it is very RAM intensive.

This underscores the fact that porting Steem to a general purpose chain like Tron makes no sense from a technical point of view. Steem is cheap to run and the chain is tailored to its intended applications. I hope Sun gets it.

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I agree. Steem is a specialty blockchain that allows it to operate for the purpose of the content-reward system. Steem does not try to fulfill all needs.

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I just signed up last night. I'll keep you posted if my life turns to crap as a result.

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Wow that is a crazy amount of surveillance for a social media platform. I wonder if it will ever take off. There'd have to be quite a bit of money involved to make the hassle worth it.

Dan is pretty much the worst. Seems like every project he creates becomes more centralized than the last one.

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It does seem that way. I wonder how the distribution of the Voice tokens looks like.

After a 1 year ICO, the EOS tokens were still pretty centralized, what the long ICO was suppose to avoid.

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The thing that bothered me the most was how Dan was spouting about how much more decentralized having 20 block producers is compared to mining pools, but then behind the scenes added a mechanic to our blockchain that would allow the majority stake holder to vote in all 20 witnesses.

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Dead within 6 months. Been saying it for a while that Voice is the single stupidest idea for a crypto related social media platform.
Its amazingly stupid.
Its like they thought to themselves:

"Hmm. What are absolute worst choices we could have made, and they went with it.

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Hahaha, I'm sure Dan Larimer and the big honchos of Block.one & HooYu are gonna LOVE you for "sharing your Voice" @taskmaster4450. Tsk Tsk };)

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I took one look a the KYC requirement and thought that's insane for social media. I'm signed up for the Beta but because I'm not in the USA I'm not in the first release.

There's no way I'm going on there with a real ID or trusting a KYC identity to a social media system. I'll begrudgingly do KYC for real financial institutions but not that.

It does make me wonder about the position Steem is in because it is built itself out before anyone can really think to hit the platform with a KYC requirement even though transferring Steem around is so darn easy.

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