Jan 2023 checking of the Author vs Curation rewards: What do I think I have done right?

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It's the end of the month again, and time to check on the progress of the account's HP accrual.

I do this every month since October 2022, and this has formed an important part of my self-appraisal for this account. You can read the previous edition here.

The chart below shows the 30 days figures for HP increment in Jan 2023. You can also notice from the orange line that I powered up to 10K from about 8700 early last month.

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As a good practice, I charted the progression of Author Rewards and Curation Rewards over the months below.

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A few points to highlight:

  1. Author Rewards did not increase noticeably on Jan 23. Perhaps a need to look at why my posts weren't earning the HPs.
  2. Curation Rewards increased by about 30%. Considering that my HP increased by about 13% on Jan 23, while the Curation Rewards increased by 30% in comparison, the ROI from that extra 13% is great.

The points above can be further digested.

Perhaps the full effect of the last 13% HP top-up had not been reflected, there is a need to observe the charts in the upcoming months. Likewise, the sweet jump in Jan 2023 could also be due to the aggressive top-up of HP from about 5K in December. These values show the trend, but I really need to let things settle for the next few months to see the situation more clearly.

In terms of author rewards, the increase is not substantial. A signal that I have room for improvement in this department. Maybe it's the tags, maybe I need to delegate HP to some accounts that reblogs, which I believe is important for getting votes from new readers.

Last reflection...

Is there a tool that can do this charting over months automatically? I am sure these values can be pulled from the API. I may need to try coding for it if I can't find one.

In any case, this is a good exercise if we care about our HP accrual.

P/S: This is not financial advice, and please do your own due diligence before investing.

If you read this far... and if you are a like-minded Hiver who is on the path to learning more about Hive and crypto investing, and if you like to be tagged when I write such posts, I welcome you to leave a comment below and let me know. We can form an alliance to support each other's growth.

You might be interested in this post, @graciousvic, @deflacion, @jacoalberts, @young-kedar, @svanbo, @sumotori, @zakludick, @poplar-22 and @hankanon!

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curation rewards also increased because hive cost more if we compare vs december.
But its always nice to see extra 30%

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This is the part that I am always puzzled. I thought I am counting in terms of HP, why should HP accrual be affected by its price?

Does it mean that we get more HP, everything considered equal, when Hive price is lower? !PIZZA

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I think the higher the price of Hive, the more HP you receive in curation. If your account is worth more this month than last month, even if your HP didn't change, then the curation reward will be stronger this month. I could be wrong. I am often wrong, but I think that's why it's more difficult for small accounts to be able to upvote to a level that generates a reward. When Hive is low, those accounts can't get any curation rewards. Again, I could be wrong. Maybe someone else will let me know. @savvytester do you know the answer to this? If Hive is worth more then does your HP generate more than in a month when Hive is worth less? I.E., if HP stays the same, does the formula for curation rewards change based on the value of Hive?

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great questions. thanks for chiming in. let's hope someone can provide a definitive answer.

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I hope my reply to @methodofmad is enough to answer the questions! 😅

Regarding Hive accounts with small Hive Power, their votes become dusted if the total votes on the post or comment is less than $0.02 when the content is at the end of its 7th day from publishing time. 🤓 That's where #dustbunny or #dustsweeper can help users with low HP benefit from dust votes. 😏

Have some !PIZZA with !LOLZ! 😁

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After the last hard fork, I understand there are no dust anymore. All votes count.

!PIZZA

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There used to be two types of dust votes before the 26th Hive Hard Fork, which are "individual" and "collective" dust votes. 🤓 I explained that to @svanbo about 22 days ago. 😏

!PIZZA !LOLZ

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Very informative, I wasn't aware of that, but it is not making sense how that could work. !PIZZA

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Hmm, I understood that the votes still count but not paid out when they collectively are not reaching 0,02 USD (except when using the dust services mentioned by @savvytester ) !BBH

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@mypathtofire! Your Content Is Awesome so I just sent 1 $BBH (Bitcoin Backed Hive) to your account on behalf of @svanbo. (1/1)

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I already replied to @mypathtofire's comment about 12 hours before you left your own reply. 😅 !PIZZA !CTP

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Sometimes I don't take the time to read other answers before answering on a comment myself !PIZZA !CTP

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I already told you about 2 days ago that I would just point you to my (or others') comments if they are relevant to your reply. 😅 !PIZZA !CTP

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I know, I was just explaining. !LUV !CTP

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It's true that the higher the price of HIVE, the higher the worth of your vote even if your current Hive Power (HP owned + HP delegated in - HP delegated out) remains the same. 🤓 The worth of a Hive account alone isn't a good basis of how much its vote will be, since several factors (such as the current Voting Mana, chosen Voting Power, and not to mention the current HP) must be taken into account. 😏

Have some !PIZZA with !LOLZ! 😁

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I don't get why When Hive is low, those accounts can't get any curation rewards...?...
Isn't it more When Hive is low, those accounts can't get less curation rewards? !PIZZA

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There's a minimum amount of HP needed to generate a large enough vote to get curation, if you are the only vote on a comment or post. As Hive goes up in value, the HP is able to generate a large $ vote. When Hive is low, then very small accounts can vote, but many of the votes will not generate any $$. It's called dust.

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Oh I see what you mean now... Actually most of the accounts don't get to a vote of over 0,02 USD to get out of the dust zone... That's also why I'm not upvoting your comments. Probably nobody else will and my upvote will be in vain. Of course this doesn't mean that I don't appreciate your comment and less that I wouldn't appreciate your upvotes in comments, since they're over 0,02 USD and would pass the dust border inmediately without anyone else's upvote needed... !PIZZA

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I use Dustsweeper and that upvotes on comments that are less than 0.02. That way if you do upvote, we both get a little dust. I am not asking you to upvote, but I wanted you to be aware that some of the comments will be automatically upvoted by Dustsweeper. And even an upvote that does not generate a monetary reward is appreciated. It shows that someone took the time to read the comment.

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No worries mate, I don't think that it's bad to "ask" for an upvote; I actually think it's abd we'd "have to" ask for one... Now I know you're using Dustsweeper, no worries, I just don't want my vote go in vain. I'm doing a lot of automated votes, because I'd like to help as many as possible people to get upvotes and to grow on Hive, as well as to avoid that vote power gets lost by being at 100% and like this my vote power is getting lower all the time anyway... But like I said, I'll upvote as well your comments...

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For sure, I've got also quite a lot of tipping tokens to give every day. If you like one in particular, just let me know !PIZZA (or LUV, LOL, PGM, BBH, !CTP,...?)

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There is also a free Hive tipping token which is !HUG that can be tipped once a day without any requirement. 🤗 If you want to tip more HUGs, then you need to have 3 HUG tokens on your #HiveEngine wallet to tip twice a day, and 10 tokens to tip it thrice a day. 🤓 !PIZZA !CTP

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oh nice, so if you send me 10 days a !HUG, I'll be able to tip 3x per day :-)
It will devaluate very quickly I guess, if everyone can just freely tip it once a day !LOL !CTP

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Since I have at least 3 !HUG (which allows tipping the token twice a day) on my #HiveEngine wallet and yours have 3, I just need 3 more days to tip it to you if I tip HUGs to you twice a day. 😏 !LOL !CTP

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Don't forget that there is also the !WEED token which you can tip once per hour, and that does not require any token on your #HiveEngine wallet. 🤓 !PIZZA !CTP

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hahaha! What's the sense of such a token? !LOL !CTP

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As far as the value of the token is concerned, it costs about $0.0014 each on the #HiveEngine market. 🤓 Since any Hive user (even new ones or those which don't have any Hive Engine token yet) can tip it to you once per hour, you can accumulate lots of that token in no time. 😎 !LOL !CTP

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I see now that I've got an upvote from the !WEED dispenser hahaha, now I start to see the sense !LUV !CTP

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It sounds like you really like the upvotes, particularly from tipping bots. 😅 Maybe there should be a way to "tip" upvotes by using a bot command that upvotes the comment (or post) instead of (or along with) sending tokens, and that would simply require you to have enough of a token staked. 🤔😏 !LUV !CTP

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If you use #dustsweeper or #dustbunny, your outgoing votes that will otherwise get dusted will be collected for you by those bots (except in the case of dustsweeper where you disable sweeping of outgoing dust votes). 🤓 !PIZZA !LOLZ

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somehow yea price of hive and hbd , the more is price the more you earn, because they calculate in $ .

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I see this differently. They publish in HBD but it's calculated in Hive / HP. How Otherwise your curation rewards on a certain post could decrease when you don't get downvoted...?... I saw it ahppening more than once... !PIZZA

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We don't automatically get more Hive Power when the price of HIVE is lower. 🤔 We can only get more HIVE (which can then be converted to Hive Power) for the same amount of fiat money or stable coins/tokens (such as HBD) when its price is low. 🤓

For example, you got a new Hive account then bought and Powered Up 1,000 HIVE into Hive Power when the price of HIVE was at $0.40 each. 🤔 When the price of HIVE goes down to $0.20, your HP remains at 1,000 (excluding delegations and author/curation/other rewards), but you will then be able to get twice as much HP for the same amount of money you spent when HIVE was at $0.40. 😏

Have some !PIZZA with !LOLZ! 😁

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Yes, I get that.

My understanding is that the qty in terms of HP rewarded is the calculated the same way regardless of Hive price at the moment. !PIZZA

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You should have said "more Hive Power from rewards" to avoid ambiguity with your question. 😅

I think that it's just the same amount of Hive Power that is awarded when the price of HIVE changes. 🤔 It's only the HBD author rewards that change. 🤓 !LUV

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I think so too, but what I don't understand is why the curation rewards are in dollars and not in Hive or HP? !CTP !LUV

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The curation rewards being shown in USD is just the equivalent of the Hive Power that you will receive from being a curator of a post or comment. 🤓 !CTP !LUV

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Do you mean that this is "paid" in Hive and "calculated" to USD to have a better idea what it's worth "at the moment"?
I was thinking it was paid in HBD and after that recalculated to Hive in order to pay out... !LUV !CTP

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The curation rewards shown in USD are paid in Hive Power (not liquid HIVE). 🤓 You curate using Hive Power, so it makes sense to compute the curation rewards in Hive Power, not HBD or USD. 😏

On your #Ecency frontend settings page, you can change the currency display of the total content rewards (both author and curators) on the Currency dropdown box on the Preferences section of the page. 🤓 !LUV !CTP

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oh indeed, apparentely I could put that even in EUR. But why not in Hive or HP? !PGM !CTP

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One of the possible reasons why rewards are shown in USD (or HBD depending on Hive frontend) is because Hive users want to see their author/curator rewards in fiat or stabletoken for an easy way to keep track of how much they are earning. 🤔🤓🤯😅 !PGM !CTP

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Sent 0.1 PGM - 0.1 LVL- 1 STARBITS - 0.05 DEC - 1 SBT - 0.1 THG - 0.000001 SQM - 0.1 BUDS tokens to @savvytester

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BUY AND STAKE THE PGM TO SEND A LOT OF TOKENS!

The tokens that the command sends are: 0.1 PGM-0.1 LVL-0.1 THGAMING-0.05 DEC-15 SBT-1 STARBITS-[0.00000001 BTC (SWAP.BTC) only if you have 2500 PGM in stake or more ]

5000 PGM IN STAKE = 2x rewards!

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Support the curation account @ pgm-curator with a delegation 10 HP - 50 HP - 100 HP - 500 HP - 1000 HP

Get potential votes from @ pgm-curator by paying in PGM, here is a guide

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Me too. So better like this. !PIZZA !CTP

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This seems obvious even to me @savvytester !LOL

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I already explained on my other comment why my answer was like that, though I noticed that your comment here was a few minutes earlier before you saw my explanation for which you commented on. 😅 !CTP !LOL

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Yes sometimes answers and comments get a little bit mixed because of the delay I'm having in answering... !LUV !CTP

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It's okay, since it seldom happens. 🤗 In the rare times that your comments do get mixed up, I would just point you to my (or other people's) previous relevant replies. 😏 !LUV !CTP

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I think the January power up to 10K and the curation rewards from it will be seen more clearly by the end of February. These things take a bit of time to reflect fully and there's also a 7 day lag in terms of when the payouts reach your account. Is there a specific tool for the monthly author and curation rewards chart that you posted above?

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This is the tool https://www.hivestats.io/

I will be keeping track of this closely.

Do you have any tips for getting more votes to share? I see that you are doing great！

!PIZZA

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Okay, thank you. I'll check it out and see what my stats are.

I'm not really sure lol. I think it's just brainstorming about interesting/relevant topics and writing about them. Who knows, maybe I'm 'just lucky' these days.

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What I think @cryptothesis means is that maybe you could tell us how we could push our luck a bit !LOL
Eager to know as well...

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Lol, I think I understood what he meant and I think I answered it above. Brainstorming and writing about relevant/interesting topics

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We've noticed that writing about relevant and interesting topics (which is quite subjective) alone is not even bringing the result we see at certain people (not) writing about relevant and interesting topics....

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That's very true. Value is very subjective and what might seem valuable to one wouldn't seem valuable to many and vice versa.

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Just want to make the same remark as @methodofmad here.... I see that you comment a lot on our posts, but you're never upvoting my posts or comments. I'm also using dustsweeper and dustbunny. This means, your upvotes, even when they're small are not in vain. If in the end you wouldn't be here every day or at a certain time you'd miss out OR you don't have the time to go and check the posts of the people you'd like to support, please consider autovoting like I'm explaining in this post. Like this the smaller accounts help each other to grow... I don't mean that you have to stop manual curation, but in my opinion doing both is a good mix...

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Okay, I'll do as you suggest. Thanks for bringing it to my attention :). Dustsweeper sometimes visit the comments I made and gives it an upvote.

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I noticed that you now have 19 followers who autovote your posts on #HiveVote. 😏

You will see your list of Fanbase at https://hive.vote/dash.php?i=15&id=2&user=svanbo. 🤓 !LUV !CTP

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I was looking for a ong time already how to get there. Could you tell me the path. So Dashboard, and after that what to click next? !LUV !CTP

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Here are the steps to see your #HiveVote followers after you login on the dapp and arrive on the dashboard: 🤓

  1. Go to the Fanbase page by clicking on the link with the same name on the navigation panel at the left of the page.
  2. Type your own Hive username on the Search for a fan box on the bottom of the Fanbase page, then click the Search button.
  3. Click the Show Enable Followers link.

After you follow the steps, you will arrive at a page where your "Fans" (Hive accounts which automatically upvote your posts) are listed. 😏

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19 is not a big success after all the efforts I've been doing for it... It's better than nothing though and there are people that are really continuing to upvote me manually as well... !LUV !CTP

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I believe that manual upvotes are more valued than automatic ones (even if those manual votes are worth less), because it is relatively much more likely that the manual curator has read (at least some parts of) your post. 🤓😏 !PIZZA !LOLZ

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I think @young-kedar's posts typically have these three characteristics.

  1. Cover image includes the title. This makes it easy for people to read the title more than once. i.e. double exposure
  2. Linking to Leo glossary. This contributes to the SEO stuff and some curators like to see this.
  3. The use of section headings which makes reading easier.

Overall, it makes the posts look professional. Some curators upvote when they see details like these which signals effort.

And of course posting often helps. It's all about the law of averages. When you have more posts (within limits), there is a better chance of getting curated by powerful curators with trails of copy voters.

Not to forget that young-kader is a committed Hiver who comments regularly and always provides quality content to begin with!

!PIZZA

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Alas! I stopped doing number one because I thought it was clunky and didn't allow much of the cover image to be seen :[

I think posting often is the main takeaway, the more you're out there on the field, the higher your chances of scoring a goal.

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Your last point is definitely a fact... !PIZZA

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Thank you very much for your analysis. Again i've been learning here, which is good :-)

I didn't know what you meant with the cover image includes the title ... Apparentely @young-kedar has stopped with this since the last 11 days?...

Links to Leo Glossary (and other glossaries?)... How do I make them? I mean I know how to make a link on Hive, and I'm doing this quite often myself, like when I'm trying to convince people to start with (partial) automated voting !LOL; but my question is rather how to use these glossaries, and where to find what to link to?

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I didn’t know he stopped doing that… but I do think it’s a good practice. At least I love it.

Making the link is the same. Just find what the url for the glossary item is, put in the brackets as you did.

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The question is more "how to find out what the URL for the glossary item is"?.... !LUV !PIZZA

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Here's a great post on how to link the terms in your articles: @taskmaster4450le/how-to-use-leoglossary-to-link-terms-in-articles

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Thanks mate. @cryptothesis no worries mate, no need to look for it any more.
Will have to read it later by lack of time but here's the answer on my question :-) !LOL

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I see you are a great writer!

Would you like to follow my blog?

I usually bring content related to LeoGlossary & Threads, it's really interesting! 😍

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PeakD has an analytics section that might work for you. It doesn't generate a percentage return though. I think Hivestats is best for trying to figure curation percentage.

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Thanks, I have just checked out PeakD. You are right, it has some info, just not the info that I need. I would try coding it to fit my needs some day... !PIZZA

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I was checking around but it looks like the tool I was going to consider doesn't have data for 2023 yet. This tool was suggested to me a while ago but it might only consider things once the month is over but it can help you track the number.

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This is by far the best tool that provides the information I need.

Thank you!

Wanted to tip you some Hive but my liquid Hives were locked up!

More upvotes coming your way!

!PIZZA

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I think it's a good idea to keep statistics every month so that you can see where you are progressing and where you still have some reserves.
On the other hand, many of us are here simply because we enjoy it, not for profit.

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I think everone likes some profit too somehow... !PIZZA

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You are doing great. You need to engage with big whales to increase your author reward, your curation record is increasing which is a good thing, which shows you are giving back to the community. Keep it up @cryptothesis

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The way its price is high in the last few days due to which the power of people has also increased and the value of their vote has also increased due to which this reward is getting more. As soon as the hive price is increase, the reward of curation will increase. This will greatly benefit both the investor and the user. Because the user works hard to get votes. I will also check my progress through this Tools every month.

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You write the following:
Curation Rewards increased by about 30%. Considering that my HP increased by about 13% on Jan 23, while the Curation Rewards increased by 30% in comparison, the ROI from that extra 13% is great.
Doesn't that mean that the extra ROI is 30%-13%=17%?

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No I mean with a 13% increase in my investment to power up I am getting 30% increase in HP. I think it’s not bad.

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Now I see, thanks for expanding. Will power up soon again as well :-)

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In terms of author rewards, you said already yourself that you're attracting more public (you've called it "taking me more serious", which in my humble opinion is not what it seems - even though I hope I'm wrong here !LOL). I think the author rewards will start to settle this month and will only increase as more and more people will get interesting in your content + your content and account might attract the bigger players...

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